Yes, we know that this is taking a while!
As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity. As such, we are very happy to present our post 2022 revision of our top 50 New York Giants.
As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following:
1. Advanced Statistics.
2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Football League.
3. Playoff accomplishments.
4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.
Last year, the Giants finally turned the corner to become a competitive NFL team, but they are young and the franchise is old. This resulted in no changes in the Top 50, but we always acknowledge that the past season was taken into account.
As always, we present our top five, which was not affected by the last season:
3. Rosey Brown
4. Mel Hein
You can find the entire list here.
We welcome your input and comments and as always, we thank you for your support.
Yes, we know that this is taking a while!
As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity. As such, we are very happy to present our post 2022 revision of our top 50 New Orleans Saints.
As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following:
1. Advanced Statistics.
2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the National Football League.
3. Playoff accomplishments.
4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.
Last year, the Saints were unable to make the NFL playoffs, but there was more activity on this list than any of other NFL franchises that we revised this summer.
As always, we present our top five, which was not affected by the last season:
1. Drew Brees
2. Jahri Evans
4. Willie Roaf
You can find the entire list here.
The Top Five did not change, but should it have? We seriously considered propelling Jordan over Roaf for the four hole, and if he has another Pro Bowl caliber year, it will be difficult to not pull the trigger in 2024.
Running Back, Alvin Kamara, continues his upward climb, inching up one spot to #8. The six-year veteran missed the Pro Bowl for the first-time last year and enters 2023 with 8,888 Yards From Scrimmage.
Another Running Back, Mark Ingram, also went up by one spot, and is at #21. He is New Orleans’ all-time leading rusher, but retired in the off-season.
Linebacker, DeMario Davis, advances to #33 from #40. Last year, he became an AP All-Pro for the fourth straight year,
Right behind Davis, is Right Tackle, Ryan Ramczyk. He went up two to #34.
It is notable that active Saints, Offensive Guard, Andrus Peat and Cornerback, Marshon Lattimore, remained in their ranks at #41 and #42 respectively.
We welcome your input and comments and as always, we thank you for your support.
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If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know that we have asked the rhetorical question…what if the PFHOF began in January of 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists, and 5 in the Senior Pool. Following that, we asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era, and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their 5 Modern Era inductees and 1 Senior inductee.
Below, are the final results of this project based on 28 votes:
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1946:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Jim Thorpe TE-E-FB |
15 |
25 |
Red Grange HB-BB-TB-BB |
12 |
23 |
George Halas E-WB |
13 |
20 |
Curly Lambeau TB-FB-BB-E |
12 |
16 |
Fritz Pollard TB-BB-WB |
17 |
15 |
Ernie Nevers FB |
10 |
14 |
Cal Hubbard T-E-DE-G |
5 |
6 |
Guy Chamberlin E-WB |
14 |
4 |
Ed Healey T-G-E |
15 |
3 |
Duke Slater T |
10 |
3 |
Dutch Clark TB |
3 |
3 |
Paddy Driscoll HB-QB-TB-BB |
12 |
2 |
Benny Friedman TB-DB |
7 |
2 |
Johnny Blood TB-HB-WB-BB-DB |
3 |
2 |
George Trafton C |
10 |
1 |
Pete Henry T |
13 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1946:
Pudge Heffelfinger |
N/A |
14 |
Charles Follis |
N/A |
8 |
Pudge Heffelfinger |
N/A |
5 |
About the 1946 Inductees:
Jim Thorpe TB-E-FB, CAN 1920 & 1926, CLE 1921, OOR 1922-23, RI 1924-25, NYG 1925, CRD 1926: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Ballot (technically his 15th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963.
Before the National Football League was even conceived, Thorpe was already one America’s most celebrated athletes. A two-time Gold Medalist (although his awards were stripped, and then posthumously returned) at the 1912 Olympic winning the Pentathlon and Decathlon, Thorpe would later play professional baseball, appearing in games for the New York Giants, Cincinnati Reds and the Boston Braves. A superstar at Carlisle in every sport he tried, Thorpe first played professionally for the Pine Village Pros, and would sign with the Canton Bulldogs in 1915, where he would lead them to three league titles. The Bulldogs would become a charter member of the American Professional Football Association (renamed the National Football League in 1922), and Thorpe, while still playing, was named the institution’s inaugural President. He played for six different teams in the NFL, and was named to the 1920’s All-Decade Team.
Red Grange HB-BB-DB-TB, CHI 1925 & 1928-34, NYY 1927: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Ballot (technically his 12th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963.
As hard as it is for most of us to imagine, in the early days of the National Football League, many college players (even the elite) did not go on to play pro football. Knowing that he needed a big-ticket player, Chicago Bears Player/Owner, George Halas, coerced the star at the University of Illinois, to join the Bears ten days after his last college game. Grange helped place the Bears on the map, and while he was there briefly in his first run (signing with the New York Yankees in 1927, for a year) he came back in 1929, playing for Chicago until 1934, where he was a defensive stud in his latter years. Grange was a mega-star in Chicago, and arguably he was the first mainstream football star.
George Halas E, CHI 1920-28: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Ballot (technically his 13th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963 as a Coach/Owner.
In 1963, Halas was inducted into the PFHOF, but as a contributor. We will have a similar section, but that won’t begin until 1950, so this induction for his work as a player. The 1919 Rose Bowl MVP as a member of the Illinois Fighting Illinois, would play first professionally for the Hammond All-Stars, before he began work for A.E. Staley Company, and was the Player Coach for the Decatur Staleys. Halas represented the Staleys in the meeting that formed the NFL in 1920, and they became a charter team in the league. Augustus Staley, the owner of the team, turned control over to the team to Halas in 1921, who relocated the team to Chicago, and the Bears as we know it came to fruition. On the gridiron, Halas was named an All-Decade player who excelled on both ends of the ball. The man who would become “Papa Bear” led Chicago to their first NFL Championship in 1921, and would overall guide the Bears to eight titles.
Curly Lambeau TB-FB-BB-E, GNB 1921-29: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Ballot (technically his 12th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963 as an Owner/Coach.
Like Halas, Lambeau enters the PFHOF Revisited Hall as a player, despite his Canton resume placing him as a coach. As a player, Lambeau was excellent throwing for 24 Touchdowns and rushed for another eight, and he played until 1929, while also coaching the team. In his last year as a player/coach (1929), Lambeau took Green Bay to their first NFL Championship. Lambeau focused strictly on coaching, and he would take Green Bay to five more Championships (1930, 1931, 1936, 1939 & 1944). He would be named to the 1920s All-Decade Team.
Fritz Pollard TB-BB-WB, AKR 1920-21 & 1925-26, MIL 1922, HAM 1923 & 1925, PRV 1925: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Ballot (technically his 17th year of eligibility). Was inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2005.
It took Pollard until 2005 to enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but he enters here in 1946, though we know that this is very much with modern eyes. We say that as in 1946, the NFL had no African-American players, and a voting body that might have existed back then might not have voted for Pollard. But this is the PFHOF Revisited! Pollard was a trailblazer in every sense of the word, having starred at Brown where he led them to a Rose Bowl in 1915. Following military service, Pollard joined the Akron Pros, a charter member of what would become the NFL, and was one of two black players in the league. Pollard led the Pros to the first league championship, and the following year, he was a co-coach, making him the first African-American to coach in the league. Throughout the early 1920s, accounts stated that he was among the fastest runners in the league, and he constantly outran his opponents. After the 1926 Season, the five black players in the NFL were no longer used in what could best be described as an unofficial ban. Pollard continued to play and coach in non-NFL leagues.
Pudge Heffelfinger: Inducted in 1946 on the 1st Senior Ballot. Was never inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
A valid criticism of the PFHOF is that it has taken little account to those who laid professional football’s groundwork. This is rectified here with the first Senior inductee, Pudge Heffelfinger, the first man to paid for playing football in 1892 by the Allegheny Athletic Association. A three-time All-American at Yale and inaugural member of the College Football Hall of Fame, is recognized as one of the premier football players of the early 1890s, and though somebody always has to be first, they aren’t always great. Heffelfinger was great!