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Nile Rodgers talks about the Rock and Roll HOF
Dec 09, 2015
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We have been waiting a long time to hear a comment from this man.
In a recent interview in Japan, Rodgers had this to say:
“I honestly, honestly don’t get weird about it. I can’t figure out what the criterion is. It’s actually sort of funny.
If it’s not based on statistics then it’s just an opinion poll deciding this person’s cooler than that person. But if a hall of fame is something that says this person had 20 gold records or influenced this amount of people, I’ve sold more records than almost anyone in there. I’ve written more hit records than almost everybody in the Hall of Fame. Come on, guys!
Most people don’t know I wrote We are Family, or I’m Coming Out – they don’t know that. They just go oh, it’s Sister Sledge, or oh it’s Diana Ross.
When David Bowie walked into my bedroom and played his version of Let’s Dance, it didn’t sound anything like the one everybody knows and loves. It was sort of like a folk song. Most of the things I have done, nobody knows that I did them.”
It is interesting that Rodgers did not speak so much of the band’s accomplishments but rather that of his own. As many of you know, Chic has been nominated for a tenth time, but is their any real reason to think that this will be their breakthrough year?
Rodgers did do everything he said, and most recently collaborated with Daft Punk in “Get Lucky”, an international smash.
Rodgers has been a successful performer, songwriter and producer and would be a candidate for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Award for Musical Excellence (which was won last year by Ringo Starr) which could go to Rodgers, or a performer like Todd Rundgren and/or Brian Eno, who fits into the same category as Rodgers.
At least if they did that, we would probably be spared the annual refusal of the Hall to induct Chic, which lets be honest, is mostly nominated because of Nile Rodgers.
In a recent interview in Japan, Rodgers had this to say:
“I honestly, honestly don’t get weird about it. I can’t figure out what the criterion is. It’s actually sort of funny.
If it’s not based on statistics then it’s just an opinion poll deciding this person’s cooler than that person. But if a hall of fame is something that says this person had 20 gold records or influenced this amount of people, I’ve sold more records than almost anyone in there. I’ve written more hit records than almost everybody in the Hall of Fame. Come on, guys!
Most people don’t know I wrote We are Family, or I’m Coming Out – they don’t know that. They just go oh, it’s Sister Sledge, or oh it’s Diana Ross.
When David Bowie walked into my bedroom and played his version of Let’s Dance, it didn’t sound anything like the one everybody knows and loves. It was sort of like a folk song. Most of the things I have done, nobody knows that I did them.”
It is interesting that Rodgers did not speak so much of the band’s accomplishments but rather that of his own. As many of you know, Chic has been nominated for a tenth time, but is their any real reason to think that this will be their breakthrough year?
Rodgers did do everything he said, and most recently collaborated with Daft Punk in “Get Lucky”, an international smash.
Rodgers has been a successful performer, songwriter and producer and would be a candidate for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Award for Musical Excellence (which was won last year by Ringo Starr) which could go to Rodgers, or a performer like Todd Rundgren and/or Brian Eno, who fits into the same category as Rodgers.
At least if they did that, we would probably be spared the annual refusal of the Hall to induct Chic, which lets be honest, is mostly nominated because of Nile Rodgers.
The Pre-Integration Committee selects...nobody
Dec 07, 2015
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We would be lying if we thought that the Pre-Integration Committee was going to select anybody, and well, we weren’t let down.
Specifically, this committee was tasked with choosing players/administrators who had their day in the sun prior to 1947, when the color barrier was finally broken.
To gain induction, a candidate must finish with at least 12 of the 16 votes (75%) from the committee. The highest finisher was Doc Adams with 10. Historically speaking, Adams has been uncovered as one of the father’s of the modern game and many of his innovations are still used today.
Former players, Bill Dahlen and Harry Stovey each received eight votes. This is especially notable for Dahlen, as he received ten on the last Pre-Integration vote three years ago.
The rest of the candidates received three votes or less. This includes former Cardinals owner, Sam Breadon, Pitcher, Wes Ferrell, former Cincinnati Reds President, August Hermann, Shortstop, Marty Marion, First Basemen, Frank McCormick, former St. Louis Brown Stockings owner, Chris von der Ahe and Pitcher, Bucky Walters.
When a candidate receives three or less, the exact tally is not disclosed.
An excellent commentary on this year’s group of candidates was done by our own DDT, which you can find here. It is definitely worth your time to read.
With that over, attention is heating up on a ballot led by Ken Griffey Jr., who many feel will enter on his first attempt.
Did the Pre-Integration committee get it right?
Specifically, this committee was tasked with choosing players/administrators who had their day in the sun prior to 1947, when the color barrier was finally broken.
To gain induction, a candidate must finish with at least 12 of the 16 votes (75%) from the committee. The highest finisher was Doc Adams with 10. Historically speaking, Adams has been uncovered as one of the father’s of the modern game and many of his innovations are still used today.
Former players, Bill Dahlen and Harry Stovey each received eight votes. This is especially notable for Dahlen, as he received ten on the last Pre-Integration vote three years ago.
The rest of the candidates received three votes or less. This includes former Cardinals owner, Sam Breadon, Pitcher, Wes Ferrell, former Cincinnati Reds President, August Hermann, Shortstop, Marty Marion, First Basemen, Frank McCormick, former St. Louis Brown Stockings owner, Chris von der Ahe and Pitcher, Bucky Walters.
When a candidate receives three or less, the exact tally is not disclosed.
An excellent commentary on this year’s group of candidates was done by our own DDT, which you can find here. It is definitely worth your time to read.
With that over, attention is heating up on a ballot led by Ken Griffey Jr., who many feel will enter on his first attempt.
Did the Pre-Integration committee get it right?
A look at the Pre-Integration Baseball HOF Candidates
Dec 05, 2015
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With all the talk about the upcoming Hall of Fame vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame, it is easy to forget at the Winter Meetings that will happen on December 6th and the 7th, that the Veteran’s Committee will be meeting to discuss other nominees for Cooperstown.
This year the committee in question is the Pre-Integration Era Committee, which reflects players and administrators prior to 1947, the year in which the color line was breached by Jackie Robinson.
Before we get into the candidates they are discussing, it is worth noting a regular criticism that has been made is that these are players who at this point, nobody on the committee has seen live, and during a time when great African-American players were not allowed to participate.
Still, this is a committee that three years ago inducted three people (especially notable as the writer’s ballot yielded nobody) with former player, Deacon White, umpire, Hank O’Day and executive, Jacob Ruppert were chosen.
16 men comprise the Pre-Integration Era committee, which are:
Chuck Armstrong (Former President of the Seattle Mariners), Bert Blyleven (Hall of Fame player), Bobby Cox (Hall of Fame manager), Bill DeWitt (Managing Partner of the St. Louis Cardinals), Pat Gillick (Hall of Fame Executive), Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau), Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post Dispatch), Gary Hughes (Boston Red Sox Scout), Peter Morris (Historian), Phil Niekro (Hall of Fame player), Jack O’Connell (BBWAA), Claire Smith (Historian), Tal Smith (Former Executive), T. R. Sullivan (Historian), Gary Thorne (Historian) and Tim Wendell (Historian).
To get inducted, a candidate must receive 75% of the vote, thus obtain at least 12 votes.
The ten candidates are:
Doc Adams, a very early player in New York and multi-time president of the New York Knickerbockers. Adams is credited with many of the modern rules of the game including instituting the Shortstop position, placing bases 90 feet apart and eliminating outs being recorded after one bounce.
Sam Breadon, the owner of the St. Louis Cardinals from 1920 to 1947. The Cardinals would win six World Series Championships in that time frame. Breadon was on the 2013 ballot but received three votes or less.
Bill Dahlen, a Shortstop who was a World Series winner in 1905 and is currently a sabremetric darling. Dahlen was on the 2013 ballot and received 10 votes. He is ranked #8 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Wes Ferrell, a Pitcher who was a two time All Star. Ferrell was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #26 on Notinhalloffame.com.
August Herrmann, a former executive who was the President of the Cincinnati Reds from 1902 to 1927.
Marty Marion, a Shortstop who was a former MVP who won three World Series Championships. Marion was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #69 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Frank McCormick, a First Basemen who is a former MVP and eight time All Star. He is unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.
Harry Stovey, a First Basemen who led the NL in Home Runs in 1891. Stovey was ranked in the past by Notinhalloffame.com, however was removed upon the elimination of all 1800’s players.
Chris von der Ahe, who was the owner of the St. Louis Brown Stockings, which are now known as the St. Louis Cardinals.
Bucky Walters, a Pitcher who won the World Series in 1939 and the National League MVP in 1940. Walters was on the 2013 ballot but received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #65 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Based on the 2013 vote, it is possible that Dahlen may have a decent shot at induction, but it is more conceivable that a goose egg appears instead.
What will happen with this group, and are the criticisms correct and should the Pre-Integration period cease generating discussion?
As always, eyes will be on Cooperstown this winter and the prospects of membership growth!
This year the committee in question is the Pre-Integration Era Committee, which reflects players and administrators prior to 1947, the year in which the color line was breached by Jackie Robinson.
Before we get into the candidates they are discussing, it is worth noting a regular criticism that has been made is that these are players who at this point, nobody on the committee has seen live, and during a time when great African-American players were not allowed to participate.
Still, this is a committee that three years ago inducted three people (especially notable as the writer’s ballot yielded nobody) with former player, Deacon White, umpire, Hank O’Day and executive, Jacob Ruppert were chosen.
16 men comprise the Pre-Integration Era committee, which are:
Chuck Armstrong (Former President of the Seattle Mariners), Bert Blyleven (Hall of Fame player), Bobby Cox (Hall of Fame manager), Bill DeWitt (Managing Partner of the St. Louis Cardinals), Pat Gillick (Hall of Fame Executive), Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau), Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post Dispatch), Gary Hughes (Boston Red Sox Scout), Peter Morris (Historian), Phil Niekro (Hall of Fame player), Jack O’Connell (BBWAA), Claire Smith (Historian), Tal Smith (Former Executive), T. R. Sullivan (Historian), Gary Thorne (Historian) and Tim Wendell (Historian).
To get inducted, a candidate must receive 75% of the vote, thus obtain at least 12 votes.
The ten candidates are:
Doc Adams, a very early player in New York and multi-time president of the New York Knickerbockers. Adams is credited with many of the modern rules of the game including instituting the Shortstop position, placing bases 90 feet apart and eliminating outs being recorded after one bounce.
Sam Breadon, the owner of the St. Louis Cardinals from 1920 to 1947. The Cardinals would win six World Series Championships in that time frame. Breadon was on the 2013 ballot but received three votes or less.
Bill Dahlen, a Shortstop who was a World Series winner in 1905 and is currently a sabremetric darling. Dahlen was on the 2013 ballot and received 10 votes. He is ranked #8 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Wes Ferrell, a Pitcher who was a two time All Star. Ferrell was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #26 on Notinhalloffame.com.
August Herrmann, a former executive who was the President of the Cincinnati Reds from 1902 to 1927.
Marty Marion, a Shortstop who was a former MVP who won three World Series Championships. Marion was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #69 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Frank McCormick, a First Basemen who is a former MVP and eight time All Star. He is unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.
Harry Stovey, a First Basemen who led the NL in Home Runs in 1891. Stovey was ranked in the past by Notinhalloffame.com, however was removed upon the elimination of all 1800’s players.
Chris von der Ahe, who was the owner of the St. Louis Brown Stockings, which are now known as the St. Louis Cardinals.
Bucky Walters, a Pitcher who won the World Series in 1939 and the National League MVP in 1940. Walters was on the 2013 ballot but received 3 votes or less. He is ranked #65 on Notinhalloffame.com.
Based on the 2013 vote, it is possible that Dahlen may have a decent shot at induction, but it is more conceivable that a goose egg appears instead.
What will happen with this group, and are the criticisms correct and should the Pre-Integration period cease generating discussion?
As always, eyes will be on Cooperstown this winter and the prospects of membership growth!
Awards = HOF? Part Five: The Silver Slugger (Catcher) (MLB)
Dec 04, 2015
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We here at Notinhalloffame.com thought it would be fun to take a look at the major awards in North American team sports and see how it translates into Hall of Fame potential.
Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential. In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher. In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.
Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential. In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher. In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.