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Top 30 WrestleMania matches

10 years 5 months ago - 10 years 5 months ago #595 by Dr Clayton Forrester
I don't know. I'd have to think about it. Subjecting myself to watching some of those matches again just to rank the worst... hehe





1) Shawn Michaels Vs The Undertaker WM25
2) Bret Hart Vs Steve Austin WM13
3) Randy Savage Vs Ricky Steamboat WM3
4) Hulk Hogan Vs The Ultimate Warrior WM6
5) The Rock Vs Hollywood Hogan WM18
6) Bret Hart Vs Owen Hart WM10
7) Undertaker Vs Triple H WM27
The Hardys Vs Edge & Christian Vs The Dudleys WM17
9) Ultimate Warrior Vs Randy Savage WM7
10) Shawn Michaels Vs Triple H Vs Chris Benoit WM20
11) The Rock Vs Stone Cold II at WM17
12) Shawn Michaels Vs Kurt Angle WM21
13) Bret Hart Vs Roddy Piper WM8
14) Triple H Vs Undertaker III WM28
15) Shawn Michaels Vs Undertaker II WM26
16) Ric Flair Vs Shawn Michaels WM24
17) Shawn Michaels Vs Chris Jericho WM19
18) Edge Vs Chris Jericho Vs Chris Benoit Vs Kane Vs Shelton Benjamin Vs Chrisitan WM21
19) Shawn Michaels Vs Razor Ramon WM10
20) Bret Hart Vs Shawn Michaels WM12
21) Hulk Hogan Vs Andre The Giant WM3
22) John Cena Vs Shawn Michaels WM23
23) Shawn Michaels Vs Stone Cold WM14
24) Undertaker Vs Triple H I WM17
25) Randy Savage Vs Ric Flair WM8
26) Edge Vs Mick Foley WM22
27) Kurt Angle Vs Brock Lesnar WM19
28) The Rock Vs Steve Austin WM19
29) The Hardys Vs Edge & Christian Vs The Dudleys WM16
30) The Undertaker Vs CM Punk WM29
31) Hulk Hogan Vs Randy Savage WM5
32) The Ultimate Warrior Vs Rick Rude WM5
33) The Rock Vs John Cena WM28
34) CM Punk Vs Chris Jericho WM28
35) Triple H Vs Brock Lesnar WM29
36) Triple H Vs Batista WM21
37) Vince McMahon Vs Shane McMahon WM17
38) Undertaker Vs Batista WM23
39) Undertaker Vs Edge WM24
40) Eddie Guerrero Vs Kurt Angle WM20
41) Kurt Angle Vs Chris Benoit WM17
42) CM Punk Vs MVP VS Chris Jericho Vs Shelton Benjamin Vs Carlito Vs Mr.Kennedy Vs John Morrison WM24
43) Kurt Angle Vs Chris Benoit Vs Chris Jericho WM16
44) Hulk Hogan & Mr T Vs Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff WM1
45) The Rock n' Sock Connection Vs Evolution WM20
46) Mr. Perfect Vs Big Boss Man WM7
47) The Rockers Vs The Twin Towers WM5
48) Roddy Piper Vs Goldust WM12
49) Rey Mysterio Vs Cody Rhodes WM27
50) Mr Perfect Vs The Blue Blazer WM5





So are we done? Do we think we have a respectable top 30 in there somewhere? Or do we need another 10 just to be sure?

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10 years 5 months ago #596 by Committee Chairman
I think we have a more than respectable list..... i really do..... It amazes me as i look at everything what WM have no matches at all that are even close to the top 50.

I watched the other day WM9.....what a shit show that was!

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10 years 5 months ago #597 by Dr Clayton Forrester
WrestleManias 2, 4, 9, 11, and 15 seemed to have escaped our list.

In terms of matches, Mania 9 just did not deliver. Benching Randy Savage was a mistake. But in terms of concept, I loved the idea of the togas and ancient Rome. The arena looked like it was in a parking lot though.

Mania 2 was just a bad concept mixed with boring matches. They shouldn't have been hopping from city to city. The best match on that card was JYD & Santana vs the Funks. A bit underrated.

Mania 4 was a concept that just doesn't work for Mania...and now we know why. Way too many uninteresting filler matches. Too many dq's and countouts. Just meh.

Mania 11 felt like WWE was dying. A shell of its former self.

Mania 15 is hilarious in that WWE was so good at the entertainment side of things, but not as great on match delivery.

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10 years 5 months ago #598 by Committee Chairman
Clayton, thank for doing that...i was curious which ones were omitted.

I agree with you on 2, the Funk Bros match was sneaky good. I am partial to the B-Dogs match, and had the camera shot properly the end where Dynamite took that spill to cement floor, that would have been elevated.

Its funny as i look back at 4. I LOVE tournaments. I don't know if you watched the G1 in New Japan, which got me back in Japanese Wrestling. WIth that said, the psychology of this one day affair was a mess, especially for the mid carders who had a rare shot to win the WWF title lack emotion during the tourney. The Rude/Roberts match even got a boring chant if i recall. Still, i loved when i was a kid, but damn this card aged poorly.

11 i did not think it was that bad. Michaels/Diesel was not that bad, but could have been better. Bigelow/Taylor was light years better than anyone thought it would be. But we did have what i thought was not just Bret's worst WM match (and i amincluding the one with Vince) but his worst PPV performance period.

You nailed it on 15. Felt important, but every match was rushed.

9.....ugh. You had a twenty minute stinker with HBK, Bret and Yoko don't match up well, the Steiners/Headshrinkers were not what it could have been, UT had his worst WM opponent, and Lex Fucking Luger was in the best match of the night.

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10 years 5 months ago #599 by Dr Clayton Forrester
I don't mind a tournament being on pay per view, but I perhaps it's better served for Survivor Series or a lesser event.

As for Mania 9, they should have had Taker verus Bam Bam Bigelow. Instead poor Bam Bam, Kamala, and Slick got left off the card due to time constraints.

They could have put Savage against Bret Hart, Yokozuna, or Shawn Michaels. But sticking him at the commentator booth was ridiculous.



So how should we start narrowing down to the top 30 Mania matches? Just write our lists and compare?

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10 years 5 months ago #600 by Committee Chairman
I remember the 98 "Deadly Game" tournament. That wasn't that good either.

I understand that was what really got Savage hot...how they were putting him out to pasture. Yoko was a great big man, but a main event guy at a WM? Never liked it.

Yeah, i can pick through my top 30, if you like.....

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10 years 5 months ago #601 by Dr Clayton Forrester
Yokozuna scared me when I was young. Like Andre the Giant, only with Japanese discipline and a bigger ass. Having in the main event was fine with me but I agree he shouldn't have been facing Bret Hart.


I think I've narrowed it down to a top 30 from that 50. Should we just both start with our number one? See where we stand with that first?

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10 years 5 months ago #602 by Committee Chairman
Sorry for the delay.... a million things going on!

How about we rank top 5 and compare first?

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10 years 5 months ago #603 by Dr Clayton Forrester
Yeah. I've got a long weekend ahead of me here. I might be slow on my reply.


Top 5

1. Undertaker Vs Shawn Michaels WM25
2. Bret Hart Vs Stone Cold WM13
3. Randy Savage Vs Ricky Steamboat WM3
4. The Rock Vs Stone Cold WM17
5. Bret Hart Vs Owen Hart WM10

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10 years 5 months ago #606 by Committee Chairman
Clayton i can't argue with a single one of those on a top 5....... I think that is exactly what i had.

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