Issues with the List

9 years 8 months ago #111 by Ziggy Koole
I'm not going to be a mindless flamer and say it's a terrible list, but it certainly has some issues. For example, where is Pete Mahovlich, the Habs star in the 1970s? He's the only player who was on the '72 Summit Series team and the '76 Canada Cup team that is not in the hall of fame. I agree with the inclusion of Pat Burns in your list, he should have gone into the hall last year, do you think it would have killed the hall to have Doc Seaman or Jimmy Devellano wait one more year. But it is what it is and personally I would put Burns on this list. But if your going to include Burns, you should include another legendary builder, Stafford Smythe, who, along with hockey hall of famers Conn Smythe (his father), Punch Imlach and Harold Ballard, made the Leafs 4 time Stanley Cup Champions in 6 years. And they haven't won since. Maybe it's like the curse of Smythe, until he gets in the hall of fame, the Leafs will never win again. And now for the obligatory I'm not a leafs fan part- I cheer for the Habs. While I believe Don Cherry has done a lot of great things for the hockey community, I don't believe he should get in the hall of fame, not because he's not deserving, as he is deserving. I don't think he should get in because it will lead to a slippery slope: If Cherry gets in, should Ron Maclean get in as well? No!

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9 years 8 months ago #112 by Committee Chairman
Ziggy,Its funny you mention Mahovolich, as he was one of a few players I wondered if he should have been left off.... perhaps we erred on that one? I would love to hear what others think! As for Burns, frankly we never wanted to do coaches, but we got swept up in the emotion of it all...i personally am still stuck on that, I will however stand by Cherry, mostly for his iconic stature in the sport of hockey in Canada. If hockey had an unofficial ambassador, it may be Don Cherry...though the debate can run on and on as to whether this is good or not!..... Didn;t know you were a Habs fan...I grew up a fan of the Nordiques!!!! (Don't hate me for that)

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9 years 8 months ago #115 by Ziggy Koole
Replied by Ziggy Koole on topic Issues with the List
I do agree that Don Cherry belongs in the hall of fame. I just feel that if you induct him you have to induct many other broadcasters and journalists and such, and I'm not sure that's in the halls best interests at this point. And no, don't worry, I don't hate you for being a Nordiques fan, in fact if anything I feel sorry for you cuz you lost your team. When the Nords come back though I'll probably have to hate you again lol.

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9 years 8 months ago #117 by Knuckles
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Devellano was overdue. But so was Burns. Everyone knew he was losing his cancer fight, but they wouldn't let that getin their way. I grew up watching Hockey Night in Canada on Windsor's CBC affiliate in the 70's. Been a Habs fan since along with my Wings. As I'm partial to original six teams (minus ESPN's beloved Rangers) I'd like to see the "other" Smythe in.

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9 years 8 months ago #119 by Ziggy Koole
Replied by Ziggy Koole on topic Issues with the List
I'd like to see some more Flyers in the hall of fame, as I am a little bit partial towards the Flyers (mostly because of my absolute detest for their divisional rivals: the Devils invented the trap, the Penguins always have superstar players who think that theyre god of the universe, ESPN performs fellatio on the Rangers, and the Islanders are... well... the Islanders. But back to the point) the Flyers only have 3 players who played the majority of their careers in Philly that are in the hall: Bobby Clarke, Bill Barber, and Bernie Parent. Come on hockey hall of fame, let's get some more Flyers.

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9 years 8 months ago #120 by Committee Chairman
Ziggy..... which Flyer would you start with?

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9 years 8 months ago #139 by Ziggy Koole
Replied by Ziggy Koole on topic Issues with the List
Reggie Leach should be in absolutely. So should Mark Howe and Ron Hextall, two of the best players at their respective positions of their eras. Tim Kerr, Eric Lindros, and one of my favourite all time players, John Leclair, also deserve consideration.The hockey hall of fame has not been kind to enforcers, but I believe Dave Schultz deserves a look. It's difficult to mention the history of the Philadelphia Flyers, the NHL in general, without mentioning Schultz. He changed pro hockey. And he wasn't just a goon he could score too.

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9 years 8 months ago #187 by Committee Chairman
I have always liked Reggie Leach. My kind of player. I hear what you are saying about the Hammer. Schultz was someone who was seriously considered, and he did embody an era. When we expand to 250, count on him being between 100-120

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9 years 8 months ago #193 by Ziggy Koole
Replied by Ziggy Koole on topic Issues with the List
Having Schultz on the next list would be much appreciated, thanks.

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