Awards = HOF? Part Sixteen: The Frank J. Selke Trophy

Awards = HOF?  Part Sixteen: The Frank J. Selke Trophy
13 Feb
2016
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We here at Notinhalloffame.com thought it would be fun to take a look at the major awards in North American team sports and see how it translates into Hall of Fame potential.

Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential.  In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher.  In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.

We shift towards what might be the most underappreciated award in sports, the Frank J. Selke Trophy, which was first instituted in the 1977/78 season.   It is given to the best defensive forward in the National Hockey League.

Surely solid two way play will generate multiple Hall of Famers right?

Let’s take a look!



The following are the past NHL players who have won the Frank J. Selke Trophy who are eligible for the Hockey Hall of Fame and have been enshrined.



Bob Gainey, Montreal Canadians, Left Wing (1978)

1977/78 Season:  15 Goals, 16 Assists, 31 Points, 0.7 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1992.

Bob Gainey, Montreal Canadians, Left Wing (1979) (2)

1978/79 Season:  20 Goals, 18 Assists, 38 Points, 1.1 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1992.

Bob Gainey, Montreal Canadians, Left Wing (1980) (3)

1979/80 Season:  14 Goals, 19 Assists, 33 Points, 0.7 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1992.

Bob Gainey, Montreal Canadians, Left Wing (1981) (4)

1980/81 Season:  23 Goals, 24 Assists, 47 Points, 1.4 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1992.

Bobby Clarke, Philadelphia Flyers, Center (1983)

1982/83 Season:  23 Goals, 62 Assists, 85 Points, 1.8 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1987.

Doug Gilmour, Toronto Maple Leafs, Center (1993)

1992/93 Season:  32 Goals, 95 Assists, 127 Points, 2.2 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2011.

Sergei Fedorov, Detroit Red Wings, Center (1994)

1993/94 Season:  56 Goals, 64 Assists, 120 Points, 2.1 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2015.

Ron Francis, Pittsburgh Penguins, Center (1995)

1994/95 Season:  11 Goals, 48 Assists, 59 Points, 1.2 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2007.

Sergei Fedorov, Detroit Red Wings, Right Wing (1996) (2)

1995/96 Season:  39 Goals, 68 Assists, 107 Points, 2.5 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2015.

Steve Yzerman, Detroit Red Wings, Center (2000)

1999/2000 Season:  35 Goals, 44 Assists, 79 Points, 2.5 Defensive Shares.  Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2009.





The following are the players who have won the NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy who are eligible for the Hockey Hall of Fame and have not been selected:



Steve Kasper, Boston Bruins, Center (1981)

1981/82 Season:  20 Goals, 31 Assists, 51 Points, 0.6 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Doug Jarvis, Washington Capitals, Center (1984)

1983/84 Season:  13 Goals, 29 Assists, 42 Points, 1.5 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #47 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Craig Ramsay, Buffalo Sabres, Left Wing (1985)

1984/85 Season:  12 Goals, 21 Assists, 33 Points, 1.8 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Troy Murray, Chicago Blackhawks, Left Wing (1986)

1985/86 Season:  45 Goals, 54 Assists, 99 Points, 1.6 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Dave Poulin, Philadelphia Flyers, Center (1987)

1986/87 Season:  25 Goals, 45 Assists, 70 Points, 2.0 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Guy Carbonneau, Montreal Canadians, Center (1988)

1987/88 Season:  17 Goals, 21 Assists, 38 Points, 1.4 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #27 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Guy Carbonneau, Montreal Canadians, Center (1989) (2)

1988/89 Season:  26 Goals, 30 Assists, 56 Points, 2.1 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #27 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Rick Meagher, St. Louis Blues, Center (1990)

1989/90 Season:  8 Goals, 17 Assists, 25 Points, 1.2 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Dirk Graham, Chicago Blackhawks, Right Wing (1991)

1990/91 Season: 24 Goals, 21 Assists, 45 Points, 1.4 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Guy Carbonneau, Montreal Canadians, Center (1992) (3)

1991/92 Season:  18 Goals, 21 Assists, 39 Points, 1.1 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #27 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Michael Peca, Buffalo Sabres, Center (1997)

1996/97 Season:  20 Goals, 29 Assists, 49 Points, 1.7 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Jere Lehtinen, Dallas Stars, Right Wing (1998)

1997/98 Season:  23 Goals, 19 Assists, 42 Points, 1.8 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Jere Lehtinen, Dallas Stars, Right Wing (1999) (2)

1998/99 Season:  20 Goals, 32 Assists, 52 Points, 2.9 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

John Madden, New Jersey Devils, Left Wing (2001)

2000/01 Season:  23 Goals, 15 Assists, 38 Points, 1.9 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Michael Peca, New York Islanders, Center (2002) (2)

2001/02 Season:  25 Goals, 35 Assists, 60 Points, 2.4 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Jere Lehtinen, Dallas Stars, Right Wing (2003) (3)

2002/03 Season:  31 Goals, 17 Assists, 48 Points, 3.2 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Kris Draper, Detroit Red Wings, Center (2004)

2003/04 Season:  24 Goals, 16 Assists, 40 Points, 2.1 Defensive Shares.  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Rod Brind’ Amour, Carolina Hurricanes (2006)

2005/06 Season:  31 Goals, 39 Assists, 70 Points, 2.2 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #52 on Notinhalloffame.com

Rod Brind’ Amour, Carolina Hurricanes (2007)

2006/07 Season:  26 Goals, 56 Assists, 82 Points, 2.5 Defensive Shares.  Ranked #52 on Notinhalloffame.com



Who amongst this group has a legitimate shot to be chosen in the future for the Hockey Hall of Fame?

None a single one of them.



Guy Carbonneau has the best shot, but as good as he was, he lacks the “flash” that the Hockey Hall seeks. 

Rod Brind’Amour had over 1,100 Points but only one All Star appearance, which reflects that there were a significant amount of potent scorers in his day.

Doug Jarvis is a “Hall of Very Good Player”, and one you would want on your team.  We would dare say that he is one of the most underrated players of all time.  We will say that over and over again, and at no point will he ever be considered for the Hockey Hall of Fame….ever.

Jere Lehtinen was another underappreciated hockey player, but he won’t make the Hall.

Michael Peca would probably never have been a Hockey Hall of Famer, but his career should have been so much greater had he not been injured.

Craig Ramsay was a runner-up for the award three times, but again, we don’t have a hockey player who was ever really spoken in Hall of Fame circles.

Kris Draper has four Stanley Cup rings.  He doesn’t need to concern himself with the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Dave Poulin also had a solid career, but the Hall of Fame and his name are never spoken together.

Steve Kasper did not make our Top 50 Boston Bruins list and his best seasons were as a Bruin.

Troy Murray’s Selke Award winning season was his best by far, and we wonder if even the most diehard fans remember that he had 99 Points that year.

Dirk Graham’s career was decent, but another that has never been spoken in regards to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

John Madden is a three time Stanley Cup Champion and a defensive gem, but won’t ever be considered Hall of Fame worthy.

Rick Meagher may have won the Selke, but he was far from an offensive player.  He was the only recipient of the award to have a negative Offensive Point Share.



Let’s update our tally shall we?



Award in Question

Percentage of recipients who have entered the HOF

Percentage of recipients by year who have entered the HOF.

NBA MVP

100%

100%

NHL Norris

90.5%

96.4%

NBA All Star Game MVP

89.5%

91.7%

NHL Lady Byng

63.8%

76.0%

NFL Super Bowl MVP

60.6%

64.9%

NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy

33.3%

36.7%

NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year

28.6%

28.6%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Designated Hitter)

25.0%

30.8%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Shortstop)

23.5%

52.6%

NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year

20.6%

20.6%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Catcher)

20.0%

22.5%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Pitcher)

18.2%

20.1%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Second Base)

16.7%

32.7%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Outfield)

15.7%

25.2%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (Third Base)

13.6%

14.3%

MLB (NL/AL) Silver Slugger (First Base)

13.6%

13.3%

MLB (NL/AL) Rookie of the Year

13.3%

13.3%



So who is up next?



The following are the players who have won the NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy who have retired but have not met the mandatory years out of the game to qualify:



There are none at this time.



The following are the players who have won the NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy who are still active.



Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings, Center (2008)

2007/08 Season:  31 Goals, 66 Assists, 97 Points, 3.7 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Detroit Red Wings.  37 Years Old.

Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings, Center (2009) (2)

2008/09 Season:  32 Goals, 65 Assists, 97 Points, 2.6 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Detroit Red Wings.  37 Years Old.

Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings, Center (2010) (3)

2009/10 Season:  27 Goals, 43 Assists, 70 Points, 2.7 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Detroit Red Wings.  37 Years Old.

Ryan Kesler, Edmonton Oilers, Center (2011)

2010/11 Season:  41 Goals, 32 Assists, 73 Points, 2.7 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Anaheim Ducks.  31 Years Old.

Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins, Center (2012)

2011/12 Season:  22 Goals, 42 Assists, 64 Points, 2.7 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Boston Bruins.  30 Years Old.

Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks, Center (2013)

2012/13 Season:  23 Goals, 25 Assists, 48 Points, 2.0 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Chicago Blackhawks.  27 Years Old.

Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins, Center (2014)

2013/14 Season:  22 Goals, 42 Assists, 64 Points, 2.8 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Boston Bruins.  30 Years Old.

Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins, Center (2015)

2014/15 Season:  23 Goals, 32 Assists, 55 Points, 1.7 Defensive Shares.  Currently with the Boston Bruins.  30 Years Old.



Pavel Datsyuk has an excellent chance for the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Ryan Kesler does not.

Patrice Bergeron is one of the most complete NHL players competing right now, but he has not been labeled as one of the best.  There is a difference.

Jonathan Toews as of right now could go either way.



So what will we look at next?

The NBA Rookie of the Year.

Look for that soon and as always we thank you for your support!
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