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Billy Corgan feels that Smashing Pumpkins are RRHOF worthy
Mar 16, 2016
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The Smashing Pumpkins are eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and if you ask Billy Corgan, the lead singer and founding member, they are definitely worthy of a spot in Cleveland.
In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Corgan was asked about that and had the following to say:
I get asked about that a lot. If it's a meritocracy, I think my band belongs in there because we were one of the prime bands of our era and we continue to be a top band. Next year will be, technically, our 30th year. So the fact that I've been in this band, you know, essentially 25 of the last 30 years, I think that says something.
Whole genres of music get overlooked and people don't get put in because somebody's mad at somebody from 30 years ago, I'm only speaking as a fan, but it's hard to trust the institution as a meritocracy when you have people in there who weren't very influential, didn’t sell a lot of records but because somebody somewhere was a fan, they're in. And then you have other people who were hugely influential and they go, 'Well, you know…”
Corgan is right, in that Smashing Pumpkins were a major part of the Alternative music boom of the early 1990’s, but realistically they have not been a relevant band for years.
Should the band get in, it is likely that only the classic lineup would be included and not the ones that are in now. Corgan is the only founding member left and he is not on the best of terms with his former bandmates.
He was asked that very question:
“I can't answer those kinds of questions," he says. "What if I say I will come and then 17 years later, when I'm in a wheelchair, they finally bring me in? I don't fucking know. I just saw Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick and I said, 'It’s about fucking time they put you in. What the fuck?' And Rick being Rick, he laughed. He said, 'I don’t give a shit. I’m in now.' I think at the end of the day you hope that it's fair and you get in on your accomplishment and it’s not a political thing. But I don't know what to think about any of that anymore."
At present, we have Smashing Pumpkins ranked relative high, at 48, but with the arrival of Pearl Jam to the newly eligible list, we are thinking they will get that “spot”.
Any thoughts on Corgan’s Hall of Fame stance?
In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Corgan was asked about that and had the following to say:
I get asked about that a lot. If it's a meritocracy, I think my band belongs in there because we were one of the prime bands of our era and we continue to be a top band. Next year will be, technically, our 30th year. So the fact that I've been in this band, you know, essentially 25 of the last 30 years, I think that says something.
Whole genres of music get overlooked and people don't get put in because somebody's mad at somebody from 30 years ago, I'm only speaking as a fan, but it's hard to trust the institution as a meritocracy when you have people in there who weren't very influential, didn’t sell a lot of records but because somebody somewhere was a fan, they're in. And then you have other people who were hugely influential and they go, 'Well, you know…”
Corgan is right, in that Smashing Pumpkins were a major part of the Alternative music boom of the early 1990’s, but realistically they have not been a relevant band for years.
Should the band get in, it is likely that only the classic lineup would be included and not the ones that are in now. Corgan is the only founding member left and he is not on the best of terms with his former bandmates.
He was asked that very question:
“I can't answer those kinds of questions," he says. "What if I say I will come and then 17 years later, when I'm in a wheelchair, they finally bring me in? I don't fucking know. I just saw Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick and I said, 'It’s about fucking time they put you in. What the fuck?' And Rick being Rick, he laughed. He said, 'I don’t give a shit. I’m in now.' I think at the end of the day you hope that it's fair and you get in on your accomplishment and it’s not a political thing. But I don't know what to think about any of that anymore."
At present, we have Smashing Pumpkins ranked relative high, at 48, but with the arrival of Pearl Jam to the newly eligible list, we are thinking they will get that “spot”.
Any thoughts on Corgan’s Hall of Fame stance?
Jacqueline to the WWE HOF.
Mar 14, 2016
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The next inductee to the WWE Hall of Fame has been announced, and as had been leaked earlier, Jacqueline Moore, professionally known in the WWE as Jacqueline will become the eighth female to enter the Hall.
Known for her toughness, Jackie first learned to wrestle in 1988 and cut her teeth in the World Class territory as “Sweet Georgia Brown”, but it was in the early 90’s in the USWA in the Texas VS Tennessee feud where she really gained attention.
Now known as Miss Texas, she served as a valet for Eric Embry and Tom Prichard and would wrestle other women of the territory. She would become the first USWA Women’s Champion, a title she held eight times, and owns the distinction of being the first female to grace the PWI 500 annual list. Still, she was looking for a national promotion and World Championship Wrestling came calling.
Now aligned with Kevin Sullivan, Jacqueline would become physically involved in his matches, though the partnership was short lived as she caused Sullivan to lose a Loser Must Retire Match when she inadvertently hit him over the head with a wooden chair. She would later managed Harlem Heat and wrestled and defeated the Disco Inferno. This gained her a higher profile, but gave her the opportunity to enter the WWF during their “Attitude Era”.
Jacqueline was immediately given her highest profile spot where she took over as the valet/manager for “Marvelous” Marc Mero and feuded with Sable. Jacqueline would wrestle Sable at the 1998 Survivor Series for the long since vacated Women’s Title and would win the title. While she would lose the Sable, she would remain in a high profile program aligning with Terri Runnells to form PMS, the Pretty Mean Sisters.
Jacqueline would win the title back in 2001 but would be relegated to a minor role, including a refereeing. Her last program of note saw her win the Cruiserweight Title from Chavo Guerrero, though that title reign was not a long one.
While we did not have Jacqueline ranked that highly, it is definitely a groundbreaker as this marks the first time an African-American woman has been chosen for the WWE Hall of Fame.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate Jacqueline Moore for receiving this honor.
Known for her toughness, Jackie first learned to wrestle in 1988 and cut her teeth in the World Class territory as “Sweet Georgia Brown”, but it was in the early 90’s in the USWA in the Texas VS Tennessee feud where she really gained attention.
Now known as Miss Texas, she served as a valet for Eric Embry and Tom Prichard and would wrestle other women of the territory. She would become the first USWA Women’s Champion, a title she held eight times, and owns the distinction of being the first female to grace the PWI 500 annual list. Still, she was looking for a national promotion and World Championship Wrestling came calling.
Now aligned with Kevin Sullivan, Jacqueline would become physically involved in his matches, though the partnership was short lived as she caused Sullivan to lose a Loser Must Retire Match when she inadvertently hit him over the head with a wooden chair. She would later managed Harlem Heat and wrestled and defeated the Disco Inferno. This gained her a higher profile, but gave her the opportunity to enter the WWF during their “Attitude Era”.
Jacqueline was immediately given her highest profile spot where she took over as the valet/manager for “Marvelous” Marc Mero and feuded with Sable. Jacqueline would wrestle Sable at the 1998 Survivor Series for the long since vacated Women’s Title and would win the title. While she would lose the Sable, she would remain in a high profile program aligning with Terri Runnells to form PMS, the Pretty Mean Sisters.
Jacqueline would win the title back in 2001 but would be relegated to a minor role, including a refereeing. Her last program of note saw her win the Cruiserweight Title from Chavo Guerrero, though that title reign was not a long one.
While we did not have Jacqueline ranked that highly, it is definitely a groundbreaker as this marks the first time an African-American woman has been chosen for the WWE Hall of Fame.
We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to congratulate Jacqueline Moore for receiving this honor.
A look at Terrell Owens' HOF Snub
Mar 12, 2016
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Hall of Fame Debates
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot.
Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same. We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same. We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
Pete Rose to the Hall of Fame...sort of.
Mar 12, 2016
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We really love the idea of this one!
Soon to be located in Milwaukee, The Bobblehead Museum has announced that the bobblehead of Pete Rose, baseball’s all-time hit king will be the first inductee. The vote was decided by an online poll.
Rose will be on hand for the ceremony at the Pabst Theatre and will participate in a Q&A session after.
This appears to be a very fun project and perhaps we will make a pilgrimage there to see the vast collection that they are in the process of procuring. This might be the most fun Hall of Fame ever…with the exception of our Fictitious Athlete and Fictitious Rock and Roll Halls of Fame, of course!
Soon to be located in Milwaukee, The Bobblehead Museum has announced that the bobblehead of Pete Rose, baseball’s all-time hit king will be the first inductee. The vote was decided by an online poll.
Rose will be on hand for the ceremony at the Pabst Theatre and will participate in a Q&A session after.
This appears to be a very fun project and perhaps we will make a pilgrimage there to see the vast collection that they are in the process of procuring. This might be the most fun Hall of Fame ever…with the exception of our Fictitious Athlete and Fictitious Rock and Roll Halls of Fame, of course!