1970 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1968.
For “1970,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1961. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
31 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Andy Robustelli DE |
1 |
29 |
Y.A. Tittle QB |
1 |
29 |
Frank Gifford HB-FL-DB-WR |
1 |
26 |
Yale Lary DB-P |
1 |
26 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
3 |
25 |
Hugh McElhenny HB |
1 |
23 |
Alan Ameche FB |
5 |
22 |
Pat Harder FB |
12 |
21 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
4 |
21 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
17 |
19 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
3 |
17 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
7 |
15 |
Bruno Banducci G |
11 |
13 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
20 |
12 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
18 |
12 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
18 |
11 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
10 |
11 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
11 |
10 |
Billy Howton E-FL |
2 |
10 |
Les Richter LB-C |
3 |
9 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
5 |
8 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
3 |
8 |
Jim Ray Smith G-T |
1 |
7 |
Woody Strode E |
16 |
4 |
Spec Sanders TB |
15 |
1 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
George Christensen |
7 |
20 |
Al Nesser |
13 |
15 |
Byron “Whizzer” White |
4 |
14 |
Ace Gutkowski |
6 |
10 |
George Svendsen |
4 |
8 |
None of the Above |
5 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Coach/GM Paul Brown |
1 |
28 |
COMM Bert Bell |
1 |
22 |
Coach Buddy Parker |
1 |
15 |
Coach Clark Shaughnessy |
1 |
8 |
Owner Charles Bidwill |
1 |
4 |
We will post the Class of the 1970 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1970 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 24 years thus far.
For “1970,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1964. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
31 Votes took place.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Y.A. Tittle QB |
1 |
30 |
Frank Gifford HB-FL-DB-WR |
1 |
25 |
Hugh McElhanney HB |
1 |
25 |
Yale Lary DB-P |
1 |
24 |
Andy Robustelli DE |
1 |
24 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
3 |
22 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
7 |
20 |
Alan Ameche FB |
5 |
20 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
3 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
17 |
19 |
Pat Harder E |
12 |
19 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
4 |
19 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
18 |
17 |
Bruno Banducci G |
11 |
16 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
20 |
15 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
10 |
15 |
Billy Howton E-Fl |
2 |
15 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
3 |
14 |
Les Richter LB-C |
3 |
14 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
18 |
13 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
12 |
11 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
5 |
11 |
Woody Strode E |
16 |
10 |
Jim Ray Smith G-T |
1 |
9 |
Spec Sanders TB |
15 |
8 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
18 |
7 |
Frankie Albert QB |
13 |
7 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
11 |
7 |
Bob Gain DT-DE-MG-T |
1 |
7 |
George Wilson E |
19 |
6 |
Frank Cope T |
18 |
6 |
Walt Michaels LB |
2 |
5 |
Ray Renfro HB-FL |
2 |
5 |
Buster Ramsey G |
14 |
4 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
4 |
4 |
Bobby Walston E-HB-K |
4 |
4 |
Marion Campbell DE-DT-MG-G-T |
4 |
3 |
Duane Putnam G |
3 |
3 |
John Nisby G |
1 |
3 |
Jerry Norton DB-HB |
1 |
3 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
18 |
2 |
Baby Ray T |
17 |
2 |
Dick Huffman T |
15 |
2 |
Ray Bray G |
13 |
2 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
11 |
2 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
9 |
2 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
8 |
2 |
Tom Brookshier DB |
4 |
2 |
Ray Wietcha C |
3 |
2 |
Tom Scott DE-LB |
1 |
2 |
Pete Tinsley G |
20 |
1 |
Bob Masterson E |
19 |
1 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
18 |
1 |
Chet Bulger T |
15 |
1 |
Paul Christman QB |
15 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
15 |
1 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
15 |
1 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
12 |
1 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
11 |
1 |
George Ratterman QB |
9 |
1 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
8 |
1 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
6 |
1 |
Abe Gibron G |
6 |
1 |
Hardy Brown LB-DB-FB |
5 |
1 |
Johnny Olszewski DB-HB |
3 |
1 |
Harley Sewell G |
2 |
1 |
Bill Forester LB-MG-DT |
2 |
1 |
Lindon Crow DB |
1 |
1 |
Jim Schrader C |
1 |
1 |
Jack Stroud G-T |
1 |
1 |
Bob Toneff DT-DE-T-LB-G |
1 |
1 |
Alex Webster HB-FB |
1 |
1 |
Jesse Whittendon DB |
1 |
1 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
19 |
0 |
*George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
10 |
0 |
*Jim David DB S |
6 |
0 |
*Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
6 |
0 |
*Warren Lahr DB |
6 |
0 |
Woodley Lewis DB-E |
5 |
0 |
Art Spinney G-DE |
5 |
0 |
*Jim Mutscheller E-DE |
4 |
0 |
*Will Sharman DB |
4 |
0 |
Don Burroughs DB |
1 |
0 |
Marv Matiszak LB |
1 |
0 |
Andy Nelson DB |
1 |
0 |
Tom Tracy HB-FB |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
George Christensen |
7 |
21 |
Al Nesser |
13 |
16 |
Whizzer White |
4 |
15 |
Ace Gutkowski |
6 |
12 |
George Svendesen |
4 |
10 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
5 |
9 |
Cub Buck |
20 |
8 |
Wildcat Wilson |
16 |
5 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
15 |
5 |
Joey Sterneman |
15 |
5 |
Joe Kopcha |
9 |
5 |
Glenn Presnell |
9 |
5 |
Jack Manders |
5 |
3 |
Father Lumpkin |
8 |
2 |
Please note that two voted for “None of the Above.”
This is for the “Coaches/Contributors”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Name |
Year |
Votes |
COACH/GM: Paul Brown |
1 |
24 |
COMM: Bert Bell |
1 |
23 |
COACH: Buddy Parker |
1 |
21 |
OWNER: Charles Bidwill |
1 |
16 |
COACH: Clark Shaughnessy |
1 |
15 |
COACH: Greasy Neale |
1 |
12 |
OWNER: Tim Mara |
1 |
10 |
OWNER: Dan Reeves |
1 |
6 |
EXEC: Arch Ward |
1 |
6 |
COACH: Jim Lee Howell |
1 |
3 |
OWNER: George Preston Marshall |
1 |
3 |
COMM: Elmer Layden |
1 |
2 |
GM/EXEC: Arch Wolfe |
1 |
1 |
OWNER: Edwin J. Anderson |
1 |
0 |
OWNER Violet Bidwill |
1 |
0 |
OWNER: James P. Clark |
1 |
0 |
EXEC: Lee Joannes |
1 |
0 |
GM: Don Kellett |
1 |
0 |
OWNER: Arthur McBride |
1 |
0 |
GM/CONT: Dick McCann |
1 |
0 |
OWNER: Tony Morabito |
1 |
0 |
COACH: Buck Shaw |
1 |
0 |
OWNER: Alexis Thompson |
1 |
0 |
GM: Ray Walsh |
1 |
0 |
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1970 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1969 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. We then asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the 24th official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 30 votes.
Remember that the group took a vote in “1969”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1972”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1969:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Joe Perry FB |
1 |
25 |
Leo Nomellini DT-T |
1 |
23 |
Bob St. Clair T |
1 |
20 |
Ernie Stautner DT-DE-G |
1 |
16 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
3 |
9 |
Pat Harder FB |
11 |
8 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
16 |
7 |
Alan Ameche FB |
4 |
7 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
2 |
6 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
17 |
5 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
2 |
5 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
17 |
4 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
19 |
4 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
6 |
2 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
4 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1969.
George Christensen |
6 |
13 |
Whizzer White |
9 |
|
Al Nesser |
10 |
2 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
6 |
About the 1969 Inductees:
Joe Perry FB, SFO 1948-60 & 1963 & BAL 1961-62: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1969 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969.
Joe Perry played football for the Naval Air Station Alameda after a stint in the military, and despite being African-American in the 1940s and playing for a non-big-time school, Perry was highly scouted by the NFL and the upstart All-American Football Conference. Perry opted for the San Francisco of the AAFC over the Los Angeles Rams, and the Fullback became the first black player in team history.
As a rookie, Perry led the AAFC in Rushing Touchdowns (10) and did so again as a sophomore (8) while also finishing first in Rushing Yards (783). The 49ers and other AAFC teams merged with the NFL, and Perry remained a dominating force. Now paired with Running Back Hugh McElhenny and Quarterback Y.A. Tittle, San Francisco had their "Million Dollar Backfield," among the best in the NFL.
In 1953, Perry, who was coming off his first Pro Bowl, had another while leading the NFL in Rushing Yards (1,018), Rushing Touchdowns (10), Yards From Scrimmage (1,209), and Touchdowns (13). Perry was named a First Team All-Pro, and the United Press called them their MVP, the first time a black player won a version of the MVP. The following season, he made history as the first player to have a back-to-back 1,000 Yard Rushing season (1,049), and he again led the league in that stat and YFS (1,252).
While that was the highlight of Perry's career, he remained a viable option for the 49ers through the rest of the decade. After a poor 1960 season, Perry was traded to the Baltimore Colts, where he played for two years before being traded back to San Francisco for one year before retiring.
Perry would total 10,194 Yards From Scrimmage with 79 Touchdowns as a 49er, and San Francisco retired his no.34 in 1971, making him the first of two players to earn that honor. In 2009, he was an inaugural member of their franchise Hall of Fame.
Leo Nomellini DT-T, SFO 1950-63: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1969 on his first Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969.
A two-time All-American and College Football Hall of Famer from the University of Minnesota, Leo “The Lion” Nomellini was the 11th Overall Pick of the NFL Draft in 1950, a selection that paid dividends for over a decade for the San Francisco 49ers.
Nomellini was a two-way Tackle over his career, with the early part shining at Offensive Tackle, where he was a First Team All-Pro in 1951 and 1952. Nomellini would then be a four-time First Team All-Pro at Defensive Tackle (1953, 1954, 1957 & 1959), making the Italian-born gridiron star one of the few who could make that claim.
Whether he was playing offensively or defensively, his freakish strength and speed made him an instant mismatch for whoever opposed him, and there is no question that he was San Francisco's best player of the decade. Nomellini was also known for his durability, as he never missed a game over his fourteen seasons in the NFL.
Worth mentioning, Nomellini would wrestle during the off-season, was a multi-time tag team champion, and was inducted posthumously into the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame in Waterloo, Iowa.
Bob St. Clair, T, SFO 1953-63. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1969 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1990.
Bob St. Clair was a Third Round Pick from Tulsa in the 1953 Draft, and the player they called the "Geek" would make the San Francisco area his home for the rest of his life.
As a rookie, St. Clair won the starting Right Tackle job and held that occupation until he retired in 1963. One of his day's best blockers, St. Clair, was as tough as he was intelligent. St. Clair participated in five Pro Bowls and was also a Second Team All-Pro five times. The Lineman was also excellent on Special Teams, and was credited with blocking ten Field Goal Attempts.
Coincidentally, St. Clair became the Mayor of nearby Daly City, California, from 1958 to 1964 and was a County Supervisor in San Mateo County from 1966 to 1974.
Ernie Stautner DT-DE-G, CHI 1922-25 & CLE 1923. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1969 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969.
A career-Steeler, Stautner played from 1950 to 1963, where he played mostly on the defensive side where the German-born player would earn trips to the Pro Bowl nine times with a First Team All-Pro Selection in 1958. The Steelers were generally not very good during Stautner’s era, but that never stopped him from playing through many injuries, including cracked ribs, broken shoulders, and a protruding thumb bone. It is unknown how many Sacks he had, but it is primarily conjectured that he was among the best in that department in the 1950s. Notably, Stautner also took his share of snaps as an Offensive Guard.
Following his playing days, Stautner became a successful defensive coach, and he won Super Bowl Rings with the Dallas Cowboys. Stautner entered the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969. Stautner entered the Steelers' Hall of Honor in 2017 as part of the first class. Notably, he is one of two franchise history players to have his number retired by the team.
1969 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1968.
For “1969,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1961. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
30 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Ernie Stautner DT-DE-G |
1 |
28 |
Leo Nomellini DT-T |
1 |
25 |
Joe Perry FB |
1 |
25 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
2 |
23 |
Bob St. Clair T |
1 |
23 |
Alan Ameche FB |
4 |
21 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
17 |
20 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
3 |
20 |
Pat Harder FB |
11 |
19 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
16 |
17 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
2 |
17 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
19 |
14 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
17 |
14 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
6 |
14 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
4 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
10 |
13 |
Les Richter LB-C |
2 |
13 |
Woody Strode E |
15 |
12 |
Billy Howton E-FL |
1 |
12 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
8 |
9 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
11 |
7 |
Frankie Albert QB |
12 |
6 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
2 |
6 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
17 |
5 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
10 |
5 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
George Christensen |
6 |
20 |
Al Nesser |
12 |
17 |
Byron “Whizzer” White |
3 |
14 |
Ace Gutkowski |
5 |
11 |
Joey Sternaman |
14 |
6 |
None of the Above |
3 |
We will post the Class of the 1969 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1969 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 23 years thus far.
For “1969,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1959. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
30 Votes took place.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots.
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Joe Perry FB |
1 |
27 |
Bob St. Clair T |
1 |
26 |
Ernie Stautner DT-DE-G |
1 |
26 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
2 |
23 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
3 |
21 |
Leo Nomellini DT-T |
1 |
21 |
Pat Harder E |
11 |
20 |
Alan Ameche FB |
4 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
16 |
19 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
2 |
19 |
Les Richter LB-C |
2 |
18 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
17 |
17 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
17 |
17 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
11 |
17 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
6 |
17 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
4 |
17 |
Billy Howton E-Fl |
1 |
17 |
Bruno Banducci G |
10 |
15 |
Woody Strode E |
15 |
13 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
2 |
13 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
10 |
13 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
19 |
12 |
Frankie Albert QB |
12 |
11 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
9 |
10 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
17 |
9 |
Frank Cope T |
17 |
8 |
George Wilson E |
18 |
7 |
Walt Michaels LB |
1 |
7 |
Spec Sanders TB |
14 |
6 |
Bobby Walston E-HB-K |
2 |
5 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
3 |
5 |
Duane Putnam G |
2 |
5 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
17 |
4 |
Marion Campbell DE-DT-MG-G-T |
3 |
4 |
Ray Renfro HB-FL |
1 |
4 |
Baby Ray T |
16 |
3 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
10 |
3 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
7 |
3 |
Abe Gibron G |
5 |
3 |
Pete Tinsley G |
19 |
2 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
18 |
2 |
Paul Christman QB |
14 |
2 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
14 |
2 |
Buster Ramsey G |
13 |
2 |
Ray Bray G |
12 |
2 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
10 |
2 |
George Ratterman QB |
8 |
2 |
Johnny Olszewski DB-HB |
2 |
2 |
Ray Wietcha C |
2 |
2 |
Bob Masterson E |
18 |
1 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
17 |
1 |
Chet Bulger T |
14 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
14 |
1 |
Dick Huffman T |
14 |
1 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
11 |
1 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
7 |
1 |
Jim David DB S |
5 |
1 |
Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
5 |
1 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
5 |
1 |
Hardy Brown LB-DB-FB |
4 |
1 |
Woodley Lewis DB-E |
4 |
1 |
Art Spinney G-DE |
4 |
1 |
Tom Brookshier DB |
3 |
1 |
*Dick Hoerner E |
12 |
0 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
9 |
0 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
9 |
0 |
*Bill Johnson C-LB |
8 |
0 |
Warren Lahr DB |
5 |
0 |
*Ray Mathews HB-E-FL |
4 |
0 |
Jim Mutscheller E-DE |
3 |
0 |
Will Sharman DB |
3 |
0 |
*Leo Sugar DE |
2 |
0 |
Harley Sewell G |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
George Christensen |
6 |
16 |
Al Nesser |
12 |
15 |
Whizzer White |
3 |
15 |
Ace Gutkowski |
5 |
12 |
Joey Sterneman |
14 |
9 |
George Svendesen |
3 |
9 |
Wildcat Wilson |
15 |
8 |
Joe Kopcha |
8 |
7 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
14 |
6 |
Cub Buck |
19 |
5 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
4 |
5 |
Father Lumpkin |
7 |
4 |
Jack Manders |
4 |
4 |
Glenn Presnell |
8 |
3 |
Please note that three voted for “None of the Above.”
We also had another vote where the voters were asked how they wanted to keep voting parameters over the next few years. 16 of 30 stated that you want to keep it as is, where YOU MUST obtain 50 percent of the vote to enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1969 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1968 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. We then asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the 23rd official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 32 votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1966”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1969”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1968:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Chuck Bednarik LB-C |
1 |
28 |
Bobby Layne QB |
1 |
24 |
Bobby Dillon S |
4 |
17 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
3 |
11 |
Alan Ameche FB |
2 |
10 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
2 |
9 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
16 |
8 |
Mike McCormack |
1 |
8 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
16 |
6 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
15 |
5 |
Pat Harder FB |
10 |
5 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
18 |
4 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
1 |
4 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
5 |
2 |
Bruno Banduccii G |
9 |
1 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1968.
George Christensen |
5 |
10 |
Ace Gutkowski |
4 |
8 |
Al Nesser |
11 |
6 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
7 |
About the 1968 Inductees:
Chuck Bednarik LB-C, PHI 1949-62: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1968 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1967.
The first name that should come to the mind in Philadelphia when it comes to football legends has to be Chuck Bednarik, who was considered the last Ironman of football as he played both ways, Center and Linebacker, and was among the best in the 1950s at both.
Bednarik was the first overall pick in the 1949 Draft, and he did not have to travel far, as he was a two-time All-American from Penn. Bednarik, who was exemplary at Center, made his mark at Linebacker with hits that rocked opponents to their core and struck fear in any offensive player. The six-time First Team All-Pro was the heart and soul of the Philadelphia Eagles team (the only team he ever played for) that won the 1960 NFL Championship.
Amusingly, Bednarik’s nickname of “Concrete Charlie” came from his off-season job as a concrete salesman and not from his hits. That moniker proved to be one of the most appropriate ones in football.
Bobby Layne QB, CHI 1948, NYB 1949, DET 1950-58 & PIT 1958-62: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1968 on his first Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1967.
A bust for both the Chicago Bears and New York Yankees, Bobby Layne quarterbacked the Lions to three NFL Championships in the 1950s and is currently the only pure QB from the Lions in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A two-time Passing Yards leader, Layne was known for his grit, being one of the last players to wear face bars on his helmet.
Detroit was never the same after he traded, and many older fans likely still claim the trade of Bobby Layne took them to the decades-long slump they are only now coming out of.
Bobby Dillon, DB, GNB 1952-59. Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1968 on his 4th Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2020.
Bobby Dillon’s career spanned only eight years, but they were all spent with the Green Bay Packers. The 94 games he put on the cleats with Green Bay were enough for him to set (and still hold) the franchise record for interceptions. Dillon would also be named a First Team All-Pro in four of his eight seasons.
It's not a bad career for someone alleged to have only one working eye.
1968 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1967.
For “1968,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1961. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
33 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Chuck Bednarik LB-C |
1 |
33 |
Bobby Layne QB |
1 |
32 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
16 |
24 |
Alan Ameche FB |
3 |
23 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
2 |
23 |
Bobby Dillon S |
4 |
21 |
Pat Harder FB |
10 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
15 |
20 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
18 |
18 |
Mike McCormack |
1 |
18 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
16 |
17 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
1 |
16 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
5 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
9 |
13 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
3 |
12 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
10 |
9 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
8 |
9 |
Les Richter LB-C |
1 |
9 |
Woody Strode E |
14 |
8 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
1 |
8 |
Frankie Albert QB |
11 |
7 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
16 |
4 |
Frank Cope T |
16 |
4 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
9 |
4 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
2 |
4 |
George Wilson E |
17 |
3 |
Spec Sanders TB |
13 |
3 |
Duane Putnam G |
1 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Al Nesser |
11 |
19 |
George Christensen |
5 |
17 |
Ace Gutkowski |
4 |
15 |
Byron “Whizzer” White |
2 |
13 |
Wildcat Wilson |
14 |
8 |
None of the Above |
7 |
We will post the Class of the 1968 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1968 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1967.
For “1968,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1961. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
33 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Chuck Bednarik LB-C |
1 |
33 |
Bobby Layne QB |
1 |
32 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
16 |
24 |
Alan Ameche FB |
3 |
23 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
2 |
23 |
Bobby Dillon S |
4 |
21 |
Pat Harder FB |
10 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
15 |
20 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
18 |
18 |
Mike McCormack |
1 |
18 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
16 |
17 |
Gene Lipscomb DT |
1 |
16 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
5 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
9 |
13 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
3 |
12 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
10 |
9 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
8 |
9 |
Les Richter LB-C |
1 |
9 |
Woody Strode E |
14 |
8 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
1 |
8 |
Frankie Albert QB |
11 |
7 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
16 |
4 |
Frank Cope T |
16 |
4 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
9 |
4 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
2 |
4 |
George Wilson E |
17 |
3 |
Spec Sanders TB |
13 |
3 |
Duane Putnam G |
1 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Al Nesser |
11 |
19 |
George Christensen |
5 |
17 |
Ace Gutkowski |
4 |
15 |
Byron “Whizzer” White |
2 |
13 |
Wildcat Wilson |
14 |
8 |
None of the Above |
7 |
We will post the Class of the 1968 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1968 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 22 years thus far.
For “1968,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1959. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
33 Votes took place.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Bobby Layne QB |
1 |
32 |
Chuck Bednarik LB-C |
1 |
31 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
2 |
22 |
Gene Lipscomb |
1 |
21 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
16 |
20 |
Alan Ameche FB |
3 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
15 |
19 |
Pat Harder E |
10 |
19 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
5 |
19 |
Bobby Dillon S |
4 |
17 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
18 |
16 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
16 |
16 |
Mike McCormack T-G |
1 |
16 |
Les Richter LB-C |
1 |
15 |
George Wilson E |
17 |
14 |
Woody Strode E |
14 |
14 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
10 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
9 |
14 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
8 |
14 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
3 |
14 |
Harlon Hill E-DB |
1 |
14 |
Spec Sanders TB |
13 |
12 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
9 |
10 |
Frankie Albert QB |
11 |
10 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
16 |
9 |
Frank Cope T |
16 |
9 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
2 |
9 |
Duane Putnam G |
1 |
9 |
Marion Campbell DE-DT-MG-G-T |
2 |
7 |
Buster Ramsey G |
12 |
6 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
9 |
6 |
Ray Wietcha C |
1 |
5 |
Bob Masterson E |
17 |
4 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
16 |
4 |
George Ratterman QB |
7 |
4 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
6 |
4 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
16 |
3 |
Baby Ray T |
15 |
3 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
9 |
3 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
6 |
3 |
Hardy Brown LB-DB-FB |
3 |
3 |
Tom Brookshier DB |
2 |
3 |
Johnny Olszewski DB-HB |
1 |
3 |
Pete Tinsley G |
18 |
2 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
8 |
2 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
8 |
2 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
4 |
2 |
Abe Gibron G |
4 |
2 |
Warren Lahr DB |
4 |
2 |
Art Spinney G-DE |
3 |
2 |
Chet Bulger T |
13 |
1 |
Paul Christman QB |
13 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
13 |
1 |
Dick Huffman T |
13 |
1 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
13 |
1 |
Ray Bray G |
11 |
1 |
Dick Hoerner E |
11 |
1 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
10 |
1 |
Bill Johnson C-LB |
7 |
1 |
Jim David DB S |
4 |
1 |
Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
4 |
1 |
Woodley Lewis DB-E |
3 |
1 |
Ray Mathews |
3 |
1 |
Jim Mutscheller E-DE |
2 |
1 |
Will Sharman DB |
2 |
1 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
17 |
0 |
*Glenn Dobbs TB-QB |
14 |
0 |
*Vic Lindskog C |
12 |
0 |
*Otto Schellenbacher S |
12 |
0 |
*Bob Hoernschemeyer B |
8 |
0 |
*Dan Towler FB |
8 |
0 |
*Bert Rechichar DB-LB-HB-E |
2 |
0 |
*Bob Schnelker E |
2 |
0 |
Leo Sugar DE |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
Whizzer White |
2 |
17 |
Al Nesser |
11 |
14 |
George Christensen |
5 |
11 |
Ace Gutkowski |
4 |
10 |
Wildcat Wilson |
14 |
9 |
Cub Buck |
18 |
8 |
Joe Kopcha |
7 |
8 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
3 |
8 |
George Svendesen |
2 |
8 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
13 |
6 |
Glenn Presnell |
7 |
6 |
Father Lumpkin |
6 |
6 |
Joey Sterneman |
13 |
5 |
Jack Manders |
3 |
5 |
Bull Karcis |
1 |
1 |
Please note that three voted for “None of the Above.”
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1968 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1967 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. We then asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the 22nd official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 32 votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1966”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1969”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1967:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Emlen Tunnell DB |
1 |
30 |
Art Donovan DT-T |
1 |
23 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
2 |
18 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
15 |
12 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
15 |
11 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
14 |
10 |
Bobby Dillon S |
3 |
10 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
17 |
8 |
Pat Harder FB |
9 |
7 |
Alan Ameche FB |
2 |
7 |
Bruno Banduccii G |
8 |
5 |
Charlie Conerly |
1 |
5 |
Woody Strode E |
13 |
2 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
7 |
2 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
9 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1967.
Hunk Anderson |
17 |
16 |
George Christensen |
4 |
10 |
Al Nesser |
10 |
2 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
4 |
About the 1967 Inductees:
Emlen Tunnell DB, NYG 1948-58 & GNB 1958-61: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1967 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1967.
After playing at Toledo, a stint with the Coast Guard, and another college football run with Iowa, Emlen Tunnell would make Giants' history as the first African-American they signed. As it turned out, Tunnell would also become the best signing they had ever done.
Tunnell blossomed into a ball hawk, petrifying Quarterbacks and infuriating Receivers for over a decade. From his rookie season to 1957, Tunnell never had a year where he had less than six Interceptions, and he peaked with a 10-INT year in 1949. Tunnell was named to the Pro Bowl annually from 1950 to 1957, earning four of those years a First Team All-Pro spot. He was also vital to a loaded Giants team that won the 1956 NFL Championship.
He would have 72 Interceptions over his Giants career, which remains a franchise record. Overall, he had another seven with Green Bay and was the all-time leader in Interceptions at the time of his retirement.
Tunnell was also used as a returner, and he twice led the NFL in Punt Return Yards, and he brought back five punts for a Touchdown. He would accumulate 2,206 Punt Return Yards with the Giants (and another three with Green Bay), and he was the all-time leader in Punt Return Yards at his retirement.
Tunnell’s contract was sold to the Green Bay Packers after the 1958 Season. He played under the legendary Vince Lombardi for three seasons, earning another Pro Bowl and a second NFL Championship.
He entered the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1967, and Tunnell was named one of the NFL 100th Anniversary Team. The Giants also chose Tunnell for their Ring of Honor in 2010.
Art Donovan DT-T, BCL 1950, NYY 1951, DTX 1952 & BAL 1953-61: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1967 on his first Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1968.
Known for one generation for his radio show and David Letterman appearances, another generation knew him for his excellent defensive play and “Bulldog” like tendencies. Donovan was a member of the first version of the Baltimore Colts, which folded in 1950, and then the New York Yanks, which folded the following year.
Coincidentally, it happened again when he signed with the Dallas Texans in 1952, making him the only player in NFL history to play for three teams in three years that all went out of business (though the new Baltimore Colts bought all the Texans’ assets, which is how he came to Baltimore a second time).
That was when Donovan’s career took off as he rattled off five consecutive Pro Bowls and four straight First Team All-Pros. Donovan was also a member of the back-to-back NFL Championships in the late ’50s.
Gene Brito, DE-E, WAS 1951-53 & 1955-58, RAM 1959-60. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1966 on his 2nd Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2020.
A late round draft pick by the Washington Redskins from Loyola Marymount in 1951, Gene Brito would play on both sides of the ball in his first two seasons. The End was certainly solid in his role, but by 1953, Brito was focused on the Left Defensive End position and was chosen for his first Pro Bowl.
Brito would have another four-year streak of Pro Bowls (1955-58) and likely would have netted another one in 1954 had he been in the league (he opted to play in the Canadian Football League with the Calgary Stampeders instead) and in 1955 the Washington D.C. Touchdown Club named him the NFL Player of the Year. Brito was so beloved in Washington that he was one of the first players to host a local television show while still as an active athlete.
The defensive star would play his final two years with the Los Angeles Rams.
Hunk Anderson G-C, CHI 1922-25 & CLE 1923. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1967 on his 17th Senior Ballot. Was never Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame.
It took a long time (from 1946 to 1967), but Hunk Anderson finally breaks through on his 17th year on the Senior Ballot.
A product of Knute Rockne at Notre Dame where he was part of two undefeated Fighting Irish squads (1919 & 1920), Anderson allegedly played under a summed name for the Canton Bulldogs in the first two years of the NFL’s existence. He later played for George Halas and the Chicago Bears where he was a top Lineman for four years and later was named to the 1920s All-Decade Team.
1967 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1966.
For “1967,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1961. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
35 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Emlen Tunnell DB |
1 |
33 |
Art Donovan DT-T |
1 |
31 |
Pat Harder FB |
9 |
26 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
15 |
23 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
2 |
22 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
15 |
21 |
Alan Ameche FB |
2 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
14 |
19 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
1 |
19 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
17 |
17 |
Bobby Dillon S |
3 |
17 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
7 |
15 |
Woody Strode E |
13 |
14 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
9 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
8 |
14 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
4 |
12 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
9 |
10 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
1 |
9 |
Spec Sanders TB |
12 |
8 |
George Wilson E |
16 |
7 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
15 |
7 |
Buster Ramsey G |
11 |
7 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
2 |
7 |
Marion Campbell DE-DT-MB-G-T |
1 |
6 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
15 |
5 |
Frankie Albert QB |
10 |
5 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
8 |
3 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
5 |
1 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Al Nesser |
10 |
17 |
Hunk Anderson |
17 |
22 |
George Christensen |
4 |
14 |
Ace Gutkowski |
3 |
12 |
Byron “Whizzer” White |
1 |
12 |
Wildcat Wilson |
13 |
8 |
None of the Above |
3 |
We will post Class of the 1967 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1967 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 21 years thus far.
For “1967,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1959. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
40 Votes took place (a new record)
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Emlen Tunnell DB |
1 |
37 |
Art Donovan DT-T |
1 |
31 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
15 |
24 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
17 |
21 |
George Wilson E |
16 |
21 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
14 |
21 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
2 |
21 |
Pat Harder E |
9 |
20 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
7 |
20 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
4 |
19 |
Alan Ameche FB |
2 |
19 |
Charlie Conerly QB |
1 |
19 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
15 |
18 |
Bobby Dillon S |
3 |
16 |
Spec Sanders TB |
12 |
15 |
Frankie Albert QB |
10 |
15 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
9 |
14 |
Bruno Banducci G |
8 |
14 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
8 |
14 |
Kyle Rote E-HB |
1 |
14 |
Woody Strode E |
13 |
12 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
15 |
10 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
15 |
10 |
Marion Campbell DE-DT-MG-G-T |
1 |
10 |
Buster Ramsey G |
11 |
9 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
8 |
9 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
5 |
9 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
2 |
9 |
Tom Brookshier DB |
1 |
8 |
Bob Masterson E |
16 |
7 |
Baby Ray T |
14 |
7 |
Abe Gibron G |
3 |
7 |
Frank Cope T |
15 |
6 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
15 |
6 |
Dick Hoerner E |
10 |
6 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
7 |
6 |
George Ratterman QB |
6 |
6 |
Paul Christman QB |
12 |
5 |
Ray Bray G |
10 |
5 |
Bill Johnson C-LB |
6 |
5 |
Pete Tinsley G |
17 |
4 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
9 |
4 |
Dan Towler FB |
7 |
4 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
20 |
3 |
Chet Bulger T |
12 |
3 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
12 |
3 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
7 |
3 |
Hardy Brown LB-DB-FB |
2 |
3 |
Woodley Lewis DB-E |
2 |
3 |
Art Spinney G-DE |
2 |
3 |
Glenn Dobbs TB-QB |
13 |
2 |
Dick Huffman T |
12 |
2 |
Vic Lindskog C |
11 |
2 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
8 |
2 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
5 |
2 |
Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
3 |
2 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
3 |
2 |
Ray Mathews |
2 |
2 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
16 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
12 |
1 |
Otto Schellenbacher S |
11 |
1 |
Jim David DB S |
3 |
1 |
Bert Rechichar DB-LB-HB-E |
1 |
1 |
*Russ Letlow G-T |
16 |
0 |
Bob Hoernschemeyer B |
7 |
0 |
Warren Lahr DB |
3 |
0 |
*Pete Brewster E |
2 |
0 |
*Ray Krouse DT-DE-T |
2 |
0 |
Jim Mutscheller E-DE |
1 |
0 |
Will Sharman DB |
1 |
0 |
Bob Schnelker E |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
Whizzer White |
1 |
19 |
George Christensen |
4 |
17 |
Hunk Anderson |
17 |
17 |
Al Nesser |
10 |
15 |
Wildcat Wilson |
13 |
11 |
Ace Gutkowski |
3 |
11 |
Joe Kopcha |
6 |
10 |
Cub Buck |
17 |
9 |
Glenn Presnell |
6 |
6 |
Father Lumpkin |
5 |
6 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
2 |
6 |
George Svendesen |
1 |
6 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
13 |
5 |
Jack Manders |
2 |
4 |
Joey Sterneman |
12 |
3 |
Please note that two voted for “None of the Above.”
We also had a vote to see if you wanted to change the voting parameter on the Final Ballot and asked if you wanted to keep it as is (vote max 5) or expand it to a maximum of 6 or 7.
31 of you said to keep it as is, so we will do that going forward.
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1967 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1966 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. We then asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the 21st official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 3q votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1966”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1969”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1966:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Norm Van Brocklin QB |
1 |
31 |
Dick Stanfel G |
3 |
18 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
6 |
16 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
14 |
14 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
1 |
12 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
20 |
9 |
Bobby Dillon S |
2 |
9 |
Pat Harder FB |
8 |
8 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
13 |
7 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
14 |
6 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
1 |
5 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
16 |
4 |
Alan Ameche FB |
1 |
4 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
3 |
1 |
Bruno Banduccii G |
7 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1966, though no candidate made the 50% threshold.
George Christensen |
3 |
15 |
Hunk Anderson |
16 |
9 |
Al Nesser |
9 |
4 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
3 |
About the 1966 Inductees:
Norm Van Brocklin QB, RAM 1949-57 & PHI 1958-60: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1966 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1971.
Norm Van Brocklin entered the NFL as a Fourth Rounder from Oregon, but the Quarterback entered a unique situation where he shared the duties with fellow Hall of Famer, Bob Waterfield. It worked well enough, as Van Brocklin was an NFL Champion in 1951, and he was still among the league leaders in passing, winning the Passing Yards Title in 1954, after Waterfield’s retirement.
Van Brocklin retired in 1958 but thought better of it, and the Rams traded him to Philadelphia, where he picked up right where he left off. The QB would have a monster 1960 season, winning the UPI MVP, NEA MVP, and Bert Bell Award while leading the Eagles to an NFL Championship. With that win, the “Dutchman” could say he did one thing no other QB could defeat a Vince Lombardi-led team in a Championship Game.
Dick Stanfel G, DET 1952-55 & WAS 1956-58: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1965 on his 3rd Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2016.
From the University of San Francisco, Dick Stanfel arrived in Detroit as the Second Overall Pick in 1951, but a knee injury prevented him from joining the Lions until 1952.
He was worth the wait.
The Guard anchored Detroit to NFL Championships in 1952 and 1953, and the five-time First Team All-Pro was traded to Washington, where he was a stalwart on their line before retiring early to join Notre Dame on their coaching staff. He was named to the 1950s All-Decade Team.
Ed Sprinkle, DE-E-G-LB, CHI 1944-55. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1966 on his 6th Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2020.
Joining the Chicago Bears in 1944 after being undrafted out of Navy, Sprinkle would help the Bears win the 1946 NFL Championship. Sprinkle would become a significant player on the defensive side of the ball, where he would become known as a ferocious (some would say dirty) pass rusher and was a forebearer for what would come. Think about that for a second. In a sport where you are encouraged to do whatever it takes, he was feared among players in a game who aren't afraid of much.
Regardless of that assessment, this was a highly skilled football player. Sprinkle would be named to four Pro Bowls in the '50s, and he would be named to the 1940's All-Decade Team.
1966 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1965.
For “1966,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1956. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
30 Votes took place, with the top fifteen advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Norm Van Brocklin QB |
1 |
30 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
6 |
23 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
14 |
21 |
Dick Stanfel G |
3 |
21 |
Pat Harder FB |
8 |
20 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
20 |
19 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
13 |
19 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
1 |
19 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
16 |
18 |
Bobby Dillon S |
2 |
18 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
14 |
17 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
3 |
16 |
Bruno Banducci G |
7 |
14 |
Alan Ameche FB |
1 |
14 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
1 |
14 |
George Svendsen C |
20 |
12 |
George Wilson E |
15 |
9 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
6 |
9 |
Woody Strode E |
12 |
7 |
Frankie Albert QB |
9 |
6 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
7 |
5 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
8 |
5 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
14 |
3 |
Frank Cope T |
14 |
3 |
Spec Sanders TB |
11 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
George Christensen |
3 |
20 |
Hunk Anderson |
16 |
18 |
Al Nesser |
9 |
17 |
Ace Gutkowski |
2 |
16 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
1 |
7 |
Glenn Presnell |
5 |
3 |
None of the Above |
2 |
We also put forth a vote asking if you wanted to have another level in the Finals to ten.
You decided not to on an overwhelming 24-6 vote.
We will post Class of the 1966 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1966 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 18 years thus far.
For “1966,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1959. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
31 Votes took place
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Norm Van Brocklin |
1 |
31 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
14 |
25 |
Pat Harder E |
8 |
25 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
5 |
24 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
13 |
22 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
14 |
21 |
Gene Brito DE-E |
1 |
20 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
16 |
19 |
Alan Ameche FB |
1 |
18 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
8 |
17 |
Bruno Banducci G |
7 |
17 |
George Svendsen C |
20 |
16 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
20 |
16 |
Woody Strode E |
12 |
16 |
Dick Stanfel G |
3 |
16 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
3 |
16 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
6 |
15 |
Spec Sanders TB |
11 |
14 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
7 |
14 |
Bobby Dillon S |
2 |
14 |
George Wilson E |
15 |
13 |
Frankie Albert QB |
9 |
13 |
Billy Wilson E-FL |
1 |
12 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
14 |
9 |
Frank Cope T |
14 |
9 |
Buster Ramsey G |
10 |
6 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
8 |
5 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
4 |
5 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
14 |
4 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
6 |
4 |
Pete Tinsley G |
16 |
3 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
7 |
3 |
Bob Hoernschemeyer B |
6 |
3 |
Abe Gibron G |
2 |
3 |
Art Spinney G-DE |
1 |
3 |
Bob Masterson E |
15 |
2 |
Baby Ray T |
13 |
2 |
Paul Christman QB |
11 |
2 |
Dick Huffman T |
11 |
2 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
7 |
2 |
Dan Towler FB |
6 |
2 |
George Ratterman QB |
5 |
2 |
Jim David DB S |
2 |
2 |
Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
2 |
2 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
2 |
2 |
Ray Krouse DT-DE-T |
1 |
2 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
15 |
1 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
14 |
1 |
Glenn Dobbs TB-QB |
12 |
1 |
Chet Bulger T |
11 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
11 |
1 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
11 |
1 |
Vic Lindskog C |
10 |
1 |
Otto Schellenbacher S |
10 |
1 |
Ray Bray G |
9 |
1 |
Dick Hoerner E |
9 |
1 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
6 |
1 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
4 |
1 |
Warren Lahr DB |
2 |
1 |
Woodley Lewis DB-E |
1 |
1 |
Ray Mathews |
1 |
1 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
19 |
0 |
Russ Letlow G-T |
15 |
0 |
*Don Paul LB-MG-C |
6 |
0 |
Bill Johnson C-LB |
5 |
0 |
*LaVern Torgeson LB-C |
4 |
0 |
*Stan West DG-G-C |
4 |
0 |
*Norm Willey DG-G-E |
4 |
0 |
*Charlie Ane C-T |
2 |
0 |
Pete Brewster E |
1 |
0 |
Hardy Brown LB-DB-FB |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
Al Nesser |
9 |
21 |
George Christensen |
3 |
17 |
Hunk Anderson |
16 |
17 |
Gaynell Tinsley |
1 |
13 |
Glenn Presnell |
5 |
12 |
Ace Gutkowski |
2 |
12 |
Wildcat Wilson |
12 |
7 |
Joe Kopcha |
5 |
7 |
Cub Buck |
16 |
6 |
Father Lumpkin |
4 |
4 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
11 |
3 |
Joey Sterneman |
11 |
3 |
Jack Manders |
1 |
2 |
*Duke Osborne |
13 |
1 |
*Swede Hanson |
3 |
1 |
*Eggs Manske |
1 |
1 |
*Milt Gantenbein |
1 |
0 |
We also had a vote to see if you wanted to change the entrant parameters.
You voted with over 80 percent to keep as is with the Top Five entering providing they get 50% of the final vote.
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1966 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1965 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know that we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. Following that, we asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the 20th official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 30 votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1963”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1966”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1965:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Lou Creekmur T-G-DG-DT |
1 |
26 |
Jack Butler DB |
1 |
19 |
Lou Rymkus T |
9 |
15 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
13 |
11 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
5 |
10 |
Dick Stanfel G |
2 |
10 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
13 |
8 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
12 |
7 |
Pat Harder FB |
7 |
7 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
19 |
6 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
15 |
6 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
20 |
5 |
George Svendsen C |
19 |
5 |
Bobby Dillon S |
1 |
5 |
Bruno Banducci G |
6 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1965, though no candidate made the 50% threshold.
George Christensen |
2 |
14 |
Hunk Anderson |
14 |
8 |
Al Nesser |
9 |
5 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
3 |
About the 1965 Inductees:
Lou Creekmur T-G-DG-DT, DET 1950-59: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1965 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1996.
Lou Creekmur was a special breed in a game that features the toughest of the tough.
A rock on Detroit’s offensive line throughout the 1950s, Creekmur anchored the line that brought the Lions to four NFL Championships and won three. Equally incredible on both the pass and rush offense, Creekmur’s dominating presence at Left Tackle ensured success on that side of the ball.
Individually, Creekmur was a six-time First Team All-Pro and an eight-time Pro Bowl Selection and never missed a game until his final season, a testament to his durability.
Jack Butler DB, PIT 1951-59: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1965 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2012.
Playing at St. Bonaventure, Jack Butler did not receive any attention from NFL scouts, which is reflected in his not being a Pick in the Draft. Butler found employment with the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1951, which worked well for both parties.
Butler won the starting job on the right side at Defensive Back as a rookie, and he had a sweet five-pick year in his first year on the job. The former Bonnie played his entire career with the Steelers as a starter, which ended after he retired in 1959. Butler was considered at his best in the last half of his career, where he was named to four Pro Bowls and three First Team All-Pros, and he led the NFL in Interceptions with 10 in 1957. He would have 52 Interceptions in total with four Touchdown Returns.
Lou Rymkus, T-DT, WAS 1943, CLE 1946-51. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1965 on his 9th Ballot. Was never inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Paul Brown called Lou Rymkus the best pass protector he had ever seen, which is high praise considering how many people he had seen do that task.
Brown did not see much of Rymkus as a rookie, as he played for the Washington Redskins after being drafted there in 1943 after an outstanding career at Notre Dame. Rymkus enlisted in the military during World War II, and upon his return to football, he elected to join the Cleveland Browns of the AAFC. He would quickly establish himself as an upper-echelon Tackle on both sides of the ball. With Cleveland, he would be named to a version of the All-Pro team each of the team's four years in the AAFC and was a significant factor in the Browns winning all four of their league championships. Rymkus and the Browns would prove that the AAFC was for real, as when the NFL absorbed the team, they would win the NFL Championship, making it five in a row for the Tackle.
He would later be a Coach, winning the AFL title twice with the Houston Oilers (1960 & 1961) as their Head Coach and a Super Bowl as the Baltimore Colts Offensive Line Coach.
1965 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1964.
For “1965,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1956. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
32 Votes took place, with the top five advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Lou Creekmur T-G-DG-DT |
1 |
27 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
13 |
22 |
Lou Rymkus T |
9 |
22 |
Jack Butler DB |
1 |
22 |
Pat Harder FB |
7 |
21 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
6 |
21 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
13 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
12 |
20 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
15 |
18 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
19 |
16 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
20 |
15 |
Dick Stanfel G |
2 |
15 |
Bobby Dillon S |
1 |
15 |
George Svendsen C |
19 |
13 |
Bruno Banducci G |
6 |
12 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
5 |
10 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
2 |
10 |
George Wilson E |
14 |
9 |
Woody Strode E |
11 |
9 |
Spec Sanders TB |
10 |
8 |
Frankie Albert QB |
8 |
8 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
7 |
7 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
6 |
5 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
13 |
5 |
Frank Cope T |
13 |
3 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
George Christensen |
2 |
22 |
Al Nesser |
9 |
19 |
Hunk Anderson |
15 |
18 |
Ace Gutkowski |
1 |
15 |
Joe Kopcha |
4 |
4 |
We will post Class of the 1965 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1965 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 17 years thus far.
For “1965,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1959. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
31 Votes took place
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Lou Creekmur T-G-DG-DT |
1 |
28 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
5 |
24 |
Lou Rymkus T |
9 |
23 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
12 |
22 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
13 |
22 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
13 |
22 |
Pat Harder E |
7 |
21 |
Jack Butler DB |
1 |
21 |
Bobby Dillon S |
1 |
21 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
15 |
20 |
Dick Stanfel G |
2 |
20 |
George Svendsen C |
19 |
18 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
19 |
17 |
Woody Strode E |
11 |
17 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
7 |
17 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
20 |
16 |
Bruno Banducci G |
6 |
16 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
2 |
16 |
George Wilson E |
14 |
13 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
13 |
13 |
Frankie Albert QB |
8 |
13 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
5 |
13 |
Frank Cope T |
13 |
11 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
6 |
11 |
Spec Sanders TB |
10 |
10 |
Buster Ramsey G |
9 |
8 |
Abe Gibron G |
1 |
6 |
Jim David DB S |
1 |
5 |
Dale Dodrill MG-LB |
1 |
5 |
Eggs Manske E |
20 |
4 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
12 |
4 |
Dan Towler FB |
5 |
4 |
Chuck Drazenovich LB-FB |
1 |
4 |
Warren Lahr DB |
1 |
4 |
Jack Manders |
20 |
3 |
Bob Masterson E |
14 |
3 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
13 |
3 |
Baby Ray T |
12 |
3 |
Otto Schellenbacher S |
9 |
3 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
7 |
3 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
6 |
3 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
6 |
3 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
5 |
3 |
Bill Johnson C-LB |
4 |
3 |
George Ratterman QB |
4 |
3 |
Milt Gantenbein E |
20 |
2 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
18 |
2 |
Ted Frisch FB |
10 |
2 |
Vic Lindskog C |
9 |
2 |
Ray Bray G |
8 |
2 |
Don Paul LB-MG-C |
5 |
2 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
5 |
2 |
LaVern Torgeson LB-C |
3 |
2 |
Pete Tinsley G |
15 |
1 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
14 |
1 |
Russ Letlow G-T |
14 |
1 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
13 |
1 |
Chet Bulger T |
10 |
1 |
Paul Christman QB |
10 |
1 |
Dick Huffman T |
10 |
1 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
10 |
1 |
Dick Hoerner E |
8 |
1 |
Bob Hoernschemeyer B |
5 |
1 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
3 |
1 |
*Al Blozis T |
16 |
0 |
Glenn Dobbs TB-QB |
11 |
0 |
*Elmer Angsman HB |
8 |
0 |
*Johnny Strzykalski HB |
8 |
0 |
*Cloyce Box E |
6 |
0 |
*Fred Morrison FB-HB |
4 |
0 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
3 |
0 |
Stan West DG-G-C |
3 |
0 |
Norm Willey DG-G-E |
3 |
0 |
*Don Colo DT |
2 |
0 |
*Gordie Soltau E |
2 |
0 |
*Bill Svoboda LB-FB |
2 |
0 |
*Roger Zatkoff LB-DE |
2 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
George Christensen |
2 |
17 |
Hunk Anderson |
15 |
16 |
Ace Gutkowski |
1 |
16 |
Al Nesser |
9 |
15 |
Joe Kopcha |
4 |
11 |
Glenn Presnell |
4 |
8 |
Wildcat Wilson |
11 |
8 |
Sol Butler |
20 |
6 |
Gull Falcon |
20 |
5 |
Cub Buck |
15 |
5 |
Herman Kerchoff |
20 |
4 |
Henry McDonald |
20 |
3 |
Duke Osborne |
12 |
3 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
10 |
3 |
Joey Sternaman |
10 |
3 |
Father Lumpkin |
3 |
3 |
Steamer Horning |
20 |
2 |
Bob Shiring |
20 |
2 |
Swede Hanson |
2 |
2 |
*Ozzie Simmons |
1 |
1 |
*Potsy Jones |
2 |
0 |
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1965 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.
1964 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project Class.
Here we are! Again!!
If you have been following our Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project, you know that we have asked the rhetorical question: What if the PFHOF began in January 1946?
After soliciting and obtaining a passionate group of football fans and historians, we sent out a ballot for a Preliminary Vote, in which we asked each voter to give us 25 names as their semi-finalists and 5 in the Senior Pool. Following that, we asked the group to vote for their 15 Finalists in the Modern Era and 3 in the Senior Category. The final stage was to vote for their five Modern Era inductee and one Senior inductee.
This is the result of the nineteenth official class;
Below are the final results of this project based on 32 votes,
Remember that the group took a vote in “1963”, and we have reverted back to the top five candidates entering the Hall PROVIDING THEY MAKE 50% of the vote. This will be put to a vote again in “1966”.
This is for the “Modern Era”
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1964:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Jack Christansen S |
1 |
28 |
Len Ford DE |
1 |
23 |
Dick Barwegan G |
5 |
19 |
Lou Rymkus T |
8 |
11 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
20 |
11 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
12 |
10 |
Dick Stanfel G |
1 |
11 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
4 |
10 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
18 |
8 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
14 |
7 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
11 |
7 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
12 |
4 |
Pat Harder FB |
6 |
4 |
George Svendsen C |
18 |
2 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
19 |
1 |
This is for the “Senior Era”,
*Bold indicates they have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Class of 1964, though no candidate made the 50% threshold.
George Christensen |
1 |
14 |
Al Nesser |
8 |
9 |
Hunk Anderson |
14 |
7 |
None of the Above |
N/A |
2 |
About the 1964 Inductees:
Jack Christiansen DB, DET 1951-58: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1964 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1970.
Jack Christiansen was a game-changing Defensive Back who altered how people viewed the Safety position. A significant part of the Lions’ two early 1950s NFL Championships, Christiansen was one of the game’s first true ball hawks, twice leading the National Football League in picks and earning six nods as a First Team All-Pro.
Christiansen was also a spectacular returner, taking eight punts back for a Touchdown, and still holds the record for the most yards per Punt Return.
Len Ford DE-E, LAD 1948-49, CLE 1950-58: Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1964 on his 1st Ballot. Inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1976.
A National Champion at Michigan in 1947, Len Ford signed with the Los Angeles Dons of the AAFC, but the Dons were not one of the teams that would be absorbed into the NFL when the two leagues merged after the 1949 Season. The Cleveland Browns took Ford in the Dispersal Draft, who was one of the teams that the NFL did take and who won all four AAFC Titles.
Ford, who was more of a two-way End in L.A., was predominantly used on defense in Cleveland and aided the Browns in their 1950 NFL Championship Team. Ford became one of the best Defensive Ends in the game, and he was chosen for four straight First Team All-Pros and Pro Bowls (1951-54) and would later be named to the 1950s All-Decade Team. He was also integral in Cleveland's 1954 and 1955 NFL Championships.
He played with the Browns until 1957, when he was traded to Green Bay, where he played one final year.
Ford was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1976 and was an inaugural member of the Browns Ring of Honor in 2010.
Dick Barwegen, G, NYY 1947, BCL 1948-49, CHI 1950-52, BAL 1953-54. Inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project in 1964 on his 5th Ballot. Was never inducted into the actual Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Dick Barwegan was an outstanding Pro Football player, but other than those who decided who should be on the 1950's All-Decade Team; he might be one of the most under the radar players in the history of the game.
It is easy to see why, as he was a late round pick of the Brooklyn Tigers in 1945, but didn’t play pro ball until 1947, and that was with the New York Yankees of the AAFC. He only played there one year and went to the first incarnation of the Baltimore Colts (again in the AAFC) and finally played in the NFL in 1950 with the Chicago Bears, where he played for three seasons before finishing with the second incarnation of the Baltimore Colts for two years.
All of these factors led to Barwegan being lost in the annals of history as he does not have any deep association with any team. Thus, we have a four-time First Team All-Pro who did not get his due in Canton, but he does here.
1964 SEMI-FINAL RESULTS:
Thank you for all of your participation in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are unaware of what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the years up to 1963.
For “1963,” a Preliminary Vote with nearly 100 players whose playing career ended by 1956. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters were asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next week, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
31 Votes took place, with the top five advancing.
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Jack Christiansen S |
1 |
28 |
Len Ford DE |
1 |
26 |
Dick Barwagen G |
5 |
24 |
Dick Stanfel G |
1 |
24 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
4 |
23 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
12 |
22 |
Pat Harder FB |
6 |
22 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
20 |
21 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
14 |
20 |
Marshall Goldberg T |
11 |
20 |
Lou Rymkus T |
8 |
20 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
18 |
17 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
12 |
16 |
George Svendsen C |
18 |
14 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
19 |
9 |
Bruno Banducci G |
5 |
8 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
1 |
8 |
Woody Strode E |
10 |
7 |
George Wilson E |
13 |
6 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
4 |
6 |
Spec Sanders TB |
9 |
5 |
Frankie Albert QB |
7 |
5 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
6 |
5 |
Charley Brock C-HB-FB |
12 |
4 |
Frank Cope T |
12 |
4 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
*Bold indicates they advanced to the Finals:
George Christensen |
1 |
25 |
Al Nesser |
8 |
22 |
Hunk Anderson |
14 |
19 |
Joe Kopcha |
3 |
13 |
Glenn Presnell |
3 |
12 |
We will post the Finalists of the Class of the 1964 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project next Saturday.
Thank you to all who contributed. If you want to be part of this project, please let us know!
1964 PRELIMINARY RESULTS:
Thank you to all who participated in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project. If you are still determining what that is, we acted like the PFHOF had its first class in January 1946.
We have completed the first 16 years thus far.
For “1964,” a Preliminary Vote with close to 100 players whose playing career ended by 1955. We are also following the structure in that players have 20 years of eligibility, and if they do not make it into the Hall, they are relegated to the Senior Pool.
Each voter was asked to select 25 names from the preliminary list, and the top 25 vote-getters were named Semi-Finalists.
A week later, the voters will be asked to pick 15 names from the 25 Semi-Finalists, and next after, they will pick five from the remaining 15. We will continue this process weekly until we catch up to the current year.
Please note that a significant change occurred “years ago,” allowing voters to submit less than the allotted spots.
30 Votes took place
This is for the “Modern Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates they have been removed from future ballots
Player |
Year of Eligibility |
Vote Total |
Jack Christiansen S |
1 |
26 |
Dick Barwegan G |
5 |
25 |
Dick Stanfel G |
1 |
24 |
Buckets Goldenberg G-BB |
14 |
22 |
Ward Cuff WB-QB-HB |
12 |
22 |
Bill Osmanski FB |
12 |
22 |
Lou Rymkus T |
8 |
22 |
Len Ford DE |
1 |
22 |
Marshall Goldberg FB |
11 |
21 |
Ed Sprinkle DE-E-G-LB |
4 |
21 |
Pat Harder E |
6 |
21 |
Ace Gutkowski FB-TB |
20 |
20 |
Gaynell Tinsley E |
19 |
18 |
Bruno Banducci G |
5 |
18 |
George Svendsen C |
18 |
17 |
Whizzer White TB-HB |
18 |
17 |
Vic Sears T-DT |
6 |
17 |
Woody Strode E |
10 |
15 |
Charley Brock C-HB |
12 |
15 |
George Wilson E |
13 |
14 |
Frankie Albert QB |
7 |
14 |
Frank Cope T |
12 |
13 |
Spec Sanders TB |
9 |
12 |
Bucko Kilroy G-MG-T-DT |
4 |
12 |
Tank Younger FB-LB-HB |
1 |
11 |
Les Bingaman DG-G-C |
5 |
10 |
Bill Fischer T-G-DT |
6 |
8 |
Buster Ramsey G |
8 |
5 |
Leon Hart E-FB-DE |
2 |
5 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
12 |
4 |
Dan Towler FB |
4 |
4 |
Al Blozis T |
15 |
3 |
Baby Ray T |
11 |
3 |
Paul Lipscomb T-DT |
5 |
3 |
Hugh Taylor QB |
5 |
3 |
Bob Hoernschemeyer B |
4 |
3 |
Don Paul LB-MG-C |
4 |
3 |
George Taliaferro HB-TB-QB-DB |
4 |
3 |
Stan West DG-G-C |
2 |
3 |
Roger Zatkoff LB-DE |
1 |
3 |
Eggs Manske E |
19 |
2 |
Parker Hall TB-HB |
13 |
2 |
Pug Manders HB-TB |
11 |
2 |
Glenn Dobbs TB-QB |
10 |
2 |
Vic Lindskog C |
8 |
2 |
Otto Schellenbacher S |
8 |
2 |
Dub Jones B-DB-WB-TB |
4 |
2 |
Bob Boyd E-DE |
2 |
2 |
Bill Svoboda LB-FB |
1 |
2 |
Ozzie Simmons HB |
20 |
1 |
Milt Gantenbein E |
19 |
1 |
Jack Manders |
19 |
1 |
Bull Karcis FB-BB-HB |
16 |
1 |
Pete Tinsley G |
14 |
1 |
Russ Letlow G-T |
13 |
1 |
Jim Lee Howell E |
12 |
1 |
Chet Bulger T |
9 |
1 |
Paul Christman QB |
9 |
1 |
Ted Frisch FB |
9 |
1 |
Dick Huffman T |
9 |
1 |
Tommy Thompson QB |
9 |
1 |
Ray Bray G |
7 |
1 |
Cloyce Box E |
5 |
1 |
Bill Johnson C-LB |
3 |
1 |
Fred Morrison FB-HB |
3 |
1 |
George Ratterman QB |
3 |
1 |
LaVern Torgeson LB-C |
2 |
1 |
Norm Willey DG-G-E |
2 |
1 |
Don Colo DT |
1 |
1 |
Bob Masterson E |
13 |
0 |
*Ki Aldrich C-LB-G |
12 |
0 |
*Dick Plasman E-T |
12 |
0 |
*Billy Dewell E |
10 |
0 |
Elmer Angsman HB |
7 |
0 |
Dick Hoerner E |
7 |
0 |
Johnny Strzykalski HB |
7 |
0 |
*John Martinkovic DE |
2 |
0 |
*Bill McPeak DE |
2 |
0 |
*Bobby Thomason QB |
2 |
0 |
*Bill Wightkin T-DE-E |
2 |
0 |
Gordie Soltau E |
1 |
0 |
This is for the “Senior Era”
Bold indicates they advanced to the Semi-Finals:
*Indicates that they will be removed from the ballot permanently.
Player |
Year |
Votes |
George Christensen |
1 |
19 |
Al Nesser |
8 |
17 |
Hunk Anderson |
14 |
16 |
Joe Kopcha |
3 |
11 |
Glenn Presnell |
3 |
9 |
Herman Kerchoff |
19 |
7 |
Cub Buck |
14 |
7 |
Sol Butler |
19 |
6 |
Gus Sonnenberg |
9 |
6 |
Gull Falcon |
19 |
5 |
Wildcat Wilson |
10 |
5 |
Bob Shiring |
19 |
4 |
Steamer Horning |
19 |
3 |
Henry McDonald |
19 |
3 |
Duke Osborne |
11 |
3 |
Joey Sternaman |
9 |
3 |
Father Lumpkin |
2 |
3 |
Swede Hanson |
1 |
2 |
Potsy Jones |
1 |
2 |
*Two-Bits Honan |
9 |
1 |
Next week, we will announce the Semi-Finalists for the 1964 Pro Football Hall of Fame Revisited Project.