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There's no reason that Dahlen and Cross can't both be nominated and elected for the Class Of 2013..That said, it's a mystery how the Hall Of Fame is going to handle the 1871-1946 election since it's the first time candidates will be nominated and voted upon in this new format for this era. It's a vast territory and timespan they are trying to cover. Will it be a represntative ballot from all decades of the timeperiod under consideration or will the more recent players from the 1920s to 1940s dominate the ballot over the 1900-1919 and 19th century era players? Will lthe committee charged with making the nominations really do their homework and select the best 10 or 12 or 15 candidates available? It will be interesting to see how the nomination phase and the election eventually plays out this coming November and December..
DDT wrote:RE: Oates: I agree: He should get in, and it is a logjam. Four players max per year, and with the upcoming eligibles (Sakic, Shanahan, Sundin, et al) it'll be lively the next few years. But Oates is 16th lifetime in total points, 6th in lifetime assists--he's got the resume. (I'm still waiting for Andreychuk's turn, though.)RE: Cross: Dead-ball era players are dicey. My vote is for Bill Dahlen. Cross hit 20 points higher, but Dahlen hit with more power--their slugging averages are almost identical. Dahlen also walked a lot more--his on-base percentage is nearly 30 points higher--but on-base appreciation is a modern custom--Cross's higher batting average probably looks more attractive for the era.Dahlen was a shortstop, though, giving him the positional-scarcity nod over Cross's primary position at third. Qualitatively, Cross's OPS+ is squarely league-average, 100, while Dahlen's is 109. In WAR, though, Dahlen is more than 30 wins more valuable than Cross: 75.9 to 44.8 using Baseball Reference; FanGraphs has an even wider gap: 80.0 to 44.5. (As far as shortstops go, why Dahlen isn't in the Hall and Rabbit Maranville is remains a mystery at least to me.)