Peter Forsberg Returns...... Which Makes Us Think....

Peter Forsberg returned to National Hockey League on Friday Night to the Colorado Avalanche after spending two seasons with Modo in the Swedish League.  Forsberg was a favorite of ours, and we are happy to see him back in the NHL, but it got us thinking....

What of the other stars still competing in Europe, like Jaormir Jagr and Dominik Hasek?  Here is why we are thinking about it.  The Hockey Hall of Fame will not consider anyone eligible until they have finished their professional career (even in Europe) for three years.  We will be looking to create a Future Candidate List for the various sports in which we cover, and we will be looking to do a "coming soon" for the afformentioned Europeans. 

Back to Forsberg, we have a case of a man who has already had an accomplished NHL career, and has been a proven assist machine.  He currently stands at 885 career points, but stands at #10 All Time for Points per Game.  Internationally, Forsberg has two Olympic Gold Medals for his native Sweden.  In the NHL, he is a former Art Ross and Hart Trophy Winner and has twice hoisted the Stanley Cup.  We think he is already Hall of Fame material, but does he have to reach a magical 1,000 NHL point total to get into the Hall?

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0 #15 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
My favourite non-original six teams are the Flyers (obviously,) Blues, Stars, Coyotes, and Predators.
A couple of friends of mine who are Bruins fans make that claim the most, about how the Braod Street Bullies ruined hockey, and I'm just like "You 9;re a Bruins fan, you're not really one to talk!" Seriously the B's were winners in the 70s for the same reasons the Flyers were; highly skilled talent mixed in with physical intimidation , but for some reason the media decides that Boston is a tough team, and Philadelphia is a dirty team. Therefore, post-1967, the Bruins have 6 hall of famers and the Flyers have 3 despite the same number of Stanley Cups and a similar number of victories. Hmm...
0 #14 Knuckles -0001-11-30 00:00
Habs are my second team, as well (behind the hometown Red Wings.) I sometimes wonder if the Wings didn't shell Roy as bad as they did in his final Montreal start would he even have been traded? Of course, that's not the reason but you have to wonder when the writing was on the wall there. Yeah, the Broad St Bullies ruined hockey but how often do you hear people gush over Marty McSorley? It was ok because he was protecting Gretzky. I grew up on Hockey Night in Canada in the 70's and liked those Flyers. The Flyers and Sabres are to two non-original 6 teams I like the best.
0 #13 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
Roy is already in the hall of fame so I didn't include him on the list. I hate him by the way, since he bailed on the Habs (my 2nd team,) and cuz he played for Colorado, who I absolutely despise, but a deserving hall of famer nonetheless.
And I know this is off-topic, but I just hate when people say that the Flyers, and more specifically , the Broad Street Bullies, "ruined hockey." ; It just makes me so angry and they have no reason to make that claim.
0 #12 Knuckles -0001-11-30 00:00
I'm with you on that. The late Bob Probert deserves a look, too, although I do think he sabotaged his career with his own failings. Don't forget Patrick Roy. I think Hextall is only behind Roy, Hasek and Brodeur. Playing for the Rangers may make Richter a more attractive candidate, though. I think Vachon has been totally forgotten. Mike Palmateer was another good goalie from that time. And Pete Peeters.
0 #11 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
True. Williams and Schultz should both be in the hall of fame, as should Dale Hunter. Either enforcers are part of the game or their not, if they are, put some of them in the hall of fame, if theyre not, then take fighting out of the game (which i do not want to see happen,) but i dont think you can have it both ways.
The problem with Hextall is the backlog of goalies waiting for induction: Hextall, Tom Barrasso, Mike Richter, John Vanbiesbrouc k, Rogie Vachon, and in the next couple years, Ed Belfour, Curtis Joseph, Dominik Hasek, Olaf Kolzig, and Martin Brodeur. Intense.
0 #10 Knuckles -0001-11-30 00:00
I agree 100% on Leach. Just a dynamic scorer. Howe may forever live in his father's huge shadow, but the guy was a cornerstone defenseman for a long time. I would applaud his election. Dave Schultz has an argument, certainly. One can go back and forth between him and Dave Williams, but he definitely made an impact. The thing about Hextall is he may well have been the best of his era, but considering the previous era had guys like Dryden, Parent, Smith (whom I absolutely abhor), and Cheevers and there weren't too many regular steady goalies who made marks can hurt his candidacy. You mention Fuhr, and Mike Liut comes to mind. But there's a dropoff. It would not be a bad selection, though.
It will be tough for guys like Kerr and LeClair. Non-Center Forwards really need to be special for a long time to get a good look, apparently.
0 #9 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
First of all, Reggie Leach. And Mark Howe. The fact that those two guys aren't in the hall means it's not really a hall. Dave Schultz, although he didn't score a lot of points, changed the game of hockey and should be in the hall of fame. You can't talk about the history of hockey without mentioning Schultz. Ron Hextall, arguably the best goalie of his era (Grant Fuhr was pretty good too I guess) should join those 3 guys in the hall of fame. More borderline candidates include Tim Kerr, Eric Lindros, and of course, John LeClair.
0 #8 Knuckles -0001-11-30 00:00
Anti-Flyer bias? Is that stemming from your own biases? Ok, which Flyers would you have in?
0 #7 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
P.S. I'm aware of the negative responses about Roaf. Let me just say that a. I am a Roaf supporter, and b. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis have just as many naysaysers when searching around the web.
0 #6 Ziggy Koole -0001-11-30 00:00
If Forsberg gets in the hockey hall of fame, then Lindros belongs too. If Forsberg doesn't get in, then Lindros shouldn' t either. But since the hockey hall of fame has an anti-Flyer bias, Forsberg will get in and Lindros won't. I honestly think Forsberg is vastly overrated. Even at his prime, when he was tearing up the NHL, he was lucky to be placed on a team with hall of famers (or future hall of famers) Joe Sakic, Adam Foote, Patrick Roy, Ray Bourque, and Rob Blake, plus a whole bunch of other stars such as Milan Hejduk, Chris Drury, and Adam Deadmarch. And then obviously his best didn't last very long. Lindros played on a weaker team with no hall of famers, and only a couple other decent players, Rod Brind'Am our, Eric Desjardins, and my hero, John LeClair, who as much as I hate to admit it, is not a hall of famer (he's in my personal HOF though.)
Both are borderline at best. But the hall of fame will be a laughingstoc k if Forsberg gets in before Lindros.

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