Any chance you could do lists for the other Hall categories?

12 years 3 months ago #39 by rockstar23
As the title states is there any chance you could do top 100 (or even 50) lists for the other categories (non-performer, sidemen and early influences). I'd be especially stoked if there was a list for early influences which has been grossly ignored except for 2009. I really hope they revive this category next year. I'm sure others would also appreciate this.

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12 years 3 months ago #216 by Committee Chairman
Eventually, we will get to the other categories.... I promise guys!

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12 years 3 months ago #207 by Darryl Tahirali
I really like the idea of listings, pages, etc., for the other categories, both the ones already in and the ones, like Casper's list, that are not. When I started paging through the "Current HoF Inductees," I realized that they were only the [email protected]: I'd add another King to the Early Influences column, Freddie King. Clapton drew heavily from him ("Hideaway" with Mayall's Bluesbreakers and "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" as "Derek" in the Derek and the Dominos in particular), and F. King's speedy, brassy style was picked up by guitarists from Steve Cropper to Stevie Ray Vaughan. And why Tom Dowd is not already in the Hall escapes me, particularly as the rest of the Atlantic brain trust (both Erteguns, Wexler, Leiber and Stoller) are already there. Maybe more people need to see the enjoyable and informative documentary Tom Dowd and the Language of Music[email protected]: The Crickets? Elvis's backing trio (Moore, Black, Fontana) is one thing; the Crickets are quite another. Don't get me wrong: I think they were terrific, and had Holly lived longer--and continued to have played with them; he was already being wooed away when he died--I could see it.I do like that drummer Sonny Curtis is the answer to a TV trivia question: Which Cricket wrote "Love Is All Around," used as the theme song for The Mary Tyler Moore Show? (And we all know that had stand-in bassist Waylon Jennings not given up his seat to the Big Bopper on that fateful flight from Clear Lake, Iowa, in 1959, he wouldn't have been around to sing "Only Daddy That'll Walk the Line" and "Amanda," right?)

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12 years 3 months ago #94 by Knuckles

Committee Chairman wrote:Knuckles....Do you mean the manager, Peter Grant?As for the Crickets, it is possible that we could include them as we have made a strong case for the Miracles (as Smokey Robinson was inducted without them)In terms of ranking, is your question about how we rank the 500, or how would we rank the non performers?

Yes, the manager.And, I was wondering where they would rank. I believe the Crickets are still playing together.

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12 years 3 months ago #92 by Committee Chairman
Knuckles....Do you mean the manager, Peter Grant?As for the Crickets, it is possible that we could include them as we have made a strong case for the Miracles (as Smokey Robinson was inducted without them)In terms of ranking, is your question about how we rank the 500, or how would we rank the non performers?

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12 years 3 months ago #90 by Knuckles
How do you rank such lists? So many qualified folks just waiting to get in.What dooes everyone think of Peter Grant's chances? And the Crickets?

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12 years 3 months ago #73 by Casper
It wouldn't be too hard to start....over at Future Rock Legends, we inducted Sidemen, Non-Performers and Influences at the rate of two a year in our mock elections. We covered virtually everyone inducted in Cleveland and plenty more. Here's the ones we felt should already be in (I could always come up with the lists of the rest that got in via "future elections" but being the 30th best Non-Performer doesn't mean much given how Cleveland inducts like 1-2 a year it seems):Non-Performers:Alan LomaxBarrett Strong & Norman WhitfieldBrian EnoBrian EpsteinBernie LoweBernie TaupinCasey KasemCosimo MatassaDon CorneliusDr. Robert MoogJohn PeelLang, Roberts, Rosenman & KornfeldLee "Scratch" PerryLou AdlerMalcolm McClarenQuincy JonesRick Rubin Robert "Mutt" LangeRussell SimmonsTom DowdWolfman JackTotal: 21Sidemen:Al KooperThe AndantesBernard PurdieBilly PrestonCarmine AppiceCharlie DanielsCrazy HorseDel CasherGlen CampbellJabo Starks & Clyde StubblefieldJeff "Skunk" BaxterJimmy NolenJim KeltnerJordanairesKlaus VoormannKenny AronoffJim HornLee AllenLeland SklarLouis SheltonMaceo ParkerMemphis HornsThe MetersMickey "Guitar" BakerMick RonsonMike BloomfieldMuscle Shoals Rhythm SectionNicky HopkinsRandy RhoadsThe RevolutionRy CooderSam "The Man" TaylorSly & RobbieSteve VaiTennessee ThreeTotal: 25- I have not included The Funk Brothers or The Wrecking Crew as members of those collectives have already been inducted individually in Cleveland for their contributions.Early Influences:The "5" RoyalesAlbert KingBig Mama ThorntonCab CallowayCarter FamilyDjango ReinhardtElla FitzgeraldFrank SinatraJohn ColtranePatsy ClineThe RavensRoy BrownSister Rosetta TharpeWynonie HarrisTotal: 14- Omissions in the above list that were indcuted in the Rock Hall Revisited/Projected elections: Pete Seeger's induction in Cleveland as an Early Influence covers his career in The Weavers, so I haven't included The Weavers on this list. Willie Nelson, The Kingston Trio, Ravi Shankar, Nina Simone and Screamin' Jay Hawkins weren't included because they don't exactly fit Cleveland's standard criteria of starting before (or around when)the rock era began. I'm using 1955 as the cutoff date, of course.

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12 years 3 months ago #43 by rockstar23
That would be really sweet if you guys could do it. I could possibly help out in the early influence department as i've been doing my own research in that area. I could maybe send you a ranking by PM when you guys will be revising the list next year, and you guys can do whatever you want with it.

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12 years 3 months ago #40 by Committee Chairman
Rockstar23.....We have actually thought about doing it, but we were not sure if there was enough people who would be into it. We can definitely look at doing that for the new year.

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12 years 3 months ago #268 by Casper

DDT wrote:@Casper: I'd add another King to the Early Influences column, Freddie King. Clapton drew heavily from him ("Hideaway" with Mayall's Bluesbreakers and "Have You Ever Loved a Woman" as "Derek" in the Derek and the Dominos in particular), and F. King's speedy, brassy style was picked up by guitarists from Steve Cropper to Stevie Ray Vaughan.

That list I posted was simply of the ones we felt should be in from the inception of the Cleveland hall through this upcoming election. We did induct Freddie King, in 2019 of our mock elections. Note that the Non-Performer, Sidemen & Influences categories had a limit of two names per year.

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