The Hall of Fame List

11 years 10 months ago #360 by Dr Clayton Forrester

DeputyVanHalen wrote:

dragonsrightwing wrote:Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see Oingo Boingo anywhere in the 500. While humorous at times, Boingo weren't primarily a comedy / parody band. Boingo fused elements of punk, swing, jazz, and "world music" all into one big paranoid nightmare that leaves me grinning!Were they even discussed? And - if so - I'm curious as to the reasons they didn't make it onto the list: not to criticize, just to see the decision process (assuming they were even discussed, of course).

You're right, they're not on the list. So now that the new inductions have been announced, when do they revise the 500 here? I read that the members' input is considered in the revisions. Is there some formal way that we all submit our suggestions, or does the committee just informally peruse the comments and forum posts?

They consider the comments in the forums and the votes in the polls that are underneath each ranked artist.They will rank the artists that become eligible next year. So whatever spots opened up this time will become scarce. But I think Oingo Boingo could probably make a top 500 list.

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11 years 10 months ago #26 by Committee Chairman
In response to the Kraftwerk debate, while we have them at #1 this year, we may not necessarilly have them at #1 next year. As we intend for this site to be interactive, comments against them (as well as for them) are taken into consideration and based on the trend so far, we are not sure if they will net the #1 slot in 2011.

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11 years 10 months ago #25 by PickGuru
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I'm very familiar with Kraftwerk but I have to agree with the notion that having them as #1 is an absurdity. Someone mentioned Stevie Ray Vaughan as being less significant or relevant yet he came along and put the blues back into the limelight, inspiring countless artists and injecting a jolt of life back into the blues scene for some legacy artists.Kiss belongs much higher on the list for sure. Some people might argue that they weren't the best musicians however that argument would also apply to The Ramones, The Velvet Underground, and Iggy Pop who are revered in certain music or critic circles (albeit not in mine). The level of popularity and resounding influence they generate to this day should be proof alone. Call 'em what you will but you can't argue with their sheer numbers alone. Then you have to give them some props for soldiering on for 35 years as well. Not too many bands can make that claim. I honestly believe that Kiss belongs in the top slot...but just my opinion.LL Cool J is to Rock and Roll what ice cream is to auto repair. The committe has the common sense of the Grammy people. BTW...I was at the HOF two years ago and ran into Tom Morello in the lobby. He paid his admission for himself and his guest and wandered up asking me which way to start out to tour the museum. After chatting a bit a nearby HOF empolyee heard me ask him to sign a postcard. It wasn't until they knew he was "somebody famous" that he was even recognized...and ironic enough they were featuring a special tribute to Lollpalooza in the museum at the times. Idiots.

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11 years 10 months ago #24 by jimmy26
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Kraftwerk? Probably top 25 or so but come on if you include popularity at all as a criterium then Journey and Def Lepp have to be higher on the list. Obviously KISS and Alice Cooper are travesties that they aren't in! I can make a strong point for many other more popular acts such as Foreigner and Boston and Reo! Speak about a genre getting ignored how about the Arena rock sounds that have dominated classic rock radio for 30 years. REally only Van Halen and Aerosmith are in from that era and that genre. And though not a big fan not having Rush in is silly.

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11 years 10 months ago #23 by Dr Clayton Forrester
I'm not too familiar with Kraftwerk. I listened to a few of their songs as provided by youtube but still couldn't say I had heard of them. That being said, there's always that one band you discover last. Doesn't mean they're last because they're unimportant, just your life experiences had you looking elsewhere until then. I'd have to give them time before I can judge properly.I think my favorite band that is currently eligible for the HoF but isn't in is the Electric Light Orchestra. I expect they'll be inducted though at some point.

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11 years 10 months ago #18 by Casper
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Kraftwerk is one of the five most influential acts in rock history that is not enshrined in the Hall. There, I said it.If you're looking at rock and roll as boring meat and potatoes combos of bass-drums-and guitar, then of course you won't get their impact. When you look at rock and roll as a wide spectrum of groundbreaking, authority opposing music (which is the Cleveland institution's intention), then you'd get their huge influence on the electronic and modern/indie rock world.Take The Velvet Underground for example....they also had "weak North American sales" but you'd be laughed out of any room if you tried to say that Stevie Rray Vaughan or Rush had a bigger influence than them. It's not even remotely about sales, but entirely about being GROUNDBREAKING and influencing the PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY MAKE MUSIC.Trust me, there's a reason why Kraftwerk has been a nominee once on the Hall of Fame's ballot while Rush is still waiting in the wings.

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11 years 10 months ago #14 by NIHOF
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Ooooh... I can't wait for the response to this one. Let me stand on the sidelines and watch, LOL. Where's The response?

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11 years 10 months ago #5 by Jambaloni
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Influential means music fans and musicians alike have heard of them to an extent great enough to be "significantly influenced" to the point that rock and roll's development was impacted and developed by the band's contribution....if you've never heard of them, it's difficult to be inspired by them or influenced! They may have been pioneers of electronica rock with a unique sound, but that doesn't mean they were more influential than Rush and significantly more influential than Stevie Ray....it just means they were unique and pioneering......let's be serious, here.

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11 years 10 months ago #4 by Jambaloni
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Kraftwerk?"One of the Foundation

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11 years 10 months ago #3 by randal ahlswede
I've recently started a page on facebook, "who you'd like to see in thr R+R HOF", Many of the clear front runners are not in your top 100, Most suggested are Little Feat, Leon Russell, Stevie Ray Vaughn (your #50), Warren Zevon (your # 58), and Delaney Bramlett....If your on Facebook, searh this page in groups....RA

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