We aren’t going to lie to you. This announcement is a major disappointment to us.
The Hockey Hall of Fame has announced that there will be no Class of 2021.
A statement from Lanny McDonald, the Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame, said the following:
“The magic of the induction weekend from the perspective of the new inductees is participating in several days of close interaction with family, friends, former teammates, fellow legends and fans.
On that premise, the board felt that this was the right decision to bestow upon the class of 2020 the recognition and lifetime experience they so richly deserve in all ways consistent with past induction classes.”
Considering what we do here at Notinhalloffame.com, and ranking those who should be in various Halls, this is a colossal disappointment to us. We want to see former players and builders and get their due in appropriate time, but after getting over our initial disappointment, there are couple of other deeper thoughts we have.
The Hockey Hall has been around since 1945, and has been consistently inducting players, coaches and builders ever since. This means there is no significant backlog and a one-year wait does not have the same impact that it would in others halls, namely the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
The Sedin twins were locks to have entered in 2021, and in 2022, there is no lock who will enter the ballot. This does however postpone the wait for worthy players like Daniel Alfredsson and Alexander Mogilny, who have yet to get in. That won’t happen in 2021.
The Class of 2020 (Marion Hossa, Jarome Iginla, Kevin Lowe, Kim St. Pierre, Doug Wilson and Ken Holland) will be inducted in 2021.
We will keep our core Notinhalloffame.com Hockey Listintact until the summer of 2021, and add new eligible names accordingly.
One of our pet projects, the Fictitious Athlete Hall of Fame is pleased to announce the Finalists for the Class of 2020, which will be the 7thfull class.
The Finalists were decided by all of you, after being pared down first from over 500 Preliminary Nominees to 50 Semi-Finalists.
There are three wings in the Fictitious Athlete Hall of Fame:
The Fictitious Athlete wing, whose members are: Rocky Balboa (The Rocky series), Roy Hobbs (The Natural), Crash Avis (Bull Durham), Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn (Major League), Happy Gilmore (Happy Gilmore), Reggie Dunlop (Slap Shot), The Hanson Brothers (Slap Shot), Charlie Conway (The Mighty Ducks) Benny “The Jet” Rodriguez (The Sandlot), Apollo Creed (Rocky), Willie “Mays” Hayes (Major League), Forrest Gump (Forrest Gump), Bobby Boucher (The Waterboy), Paul “Wrecking” Crewe (The Longest Yard), Dottie Hinson (A League of Their Own), Daniel LaRusso (The Karate Kid), Clubber Lang (Rocky), Ivan Drago (Rocky) and “Fast” Eddie Felson (The Hustler & The Color of Money.
The Fictitious Contributor wing, whose members are: Harry Doyle (Major League), Carl Spackler (Caddyshack), Mr. Miyagi (The Karate Kid), Chubbs Peterson (Happy Gilmore), Gordon Bombay (The Mighty Ducks), Mickey Goldmill (Rocky), Morris Buttermaker (The Bad News Bears), Coach Ernie Pantusso (Cheers) and Adrian Balboa (Rocky)
The Fictitious Veteran wing, whose members are: Andy “Champ” Purcell (The Champ), Dennis Ryan (Take Me Out to the Ball Game), Guffy McGovern (Angels in the Outfield), Huxley College (Horse Feathers) and Sport Goofy.
The 15 Fictitious Athlete Finalists are:
Adonis Creed (Creed and Creed II). The son of former World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Apollo Creed, Adonis became the World Heavyweight Champion himself. This is the most “recent” Finalist, and this is his second time as a Finalist.
Al Bundy (Married With Children). Bundy has been a Finalist every single year of the Hall’s existence with the Polk High football star finishing fourth on two occasions. He is most famous for scoring four touchdowns in a game, and he also led the Newmarket Mallers to a league championship in baseball.
Al Czervik (Caddyshack). Czervik was a Finalist last year for the first time, and his win over the “snobs” at Bushwood Country Club is still golf legend. “Hey, everybody! We’re all going to get laid!”
“All the Way” Mae Mordabito (A League of Their Own). Mordabito played at Centerfield for the Rockford Peaches, and was the team’s leadoff hitter. This is the first time that Madonna’s character has made it to the Finals.
“Big Ern” Ernie McCracken (Kingpin). “Big Ern” was the most recognized bowler in the circuit. McCracken has been a multi-time Semi-Finalist. Should this get it, Bill Murray will be a dual-inductee, already in as Carl Spackler from Caddyshack.
Billy Chapel (For Love of the Game). As a veteran with the Detroit Tigers, Chapel pitched a perfect game. He has always been a Semi-Finalist, and is a Finalist for the first time. This would be Kevin Costner’s second induction, following his role as Crash Davis in Bull Durham.
Bud (Air Bud). What sport could this golden retriever not do? He did it all, and he returns as a Semi-Finalist for the fifth time. He is a Finalist for the second time.
Homer Simpson (The Simpsons). The multi-time Semi Finalist has excelled in multiple sports including Softball, Boxing and Mixed Curling. He has played alongside Daryll Strawberry, fought a heavyweight champion (Drederick Tatum) and was in the Olympics with his wife. Homer has been a Finalist before, and along with the Be-Sharps, is also a Finalist for our Fictitious Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Jeff “The Dude” Lebowski (The Big Lebowski). A pot smoking slacker who loves bowling? Sounds good to us! The Dude has been a previous Semi-Finalist, but is a Finalist for the first time.
Johnny Lawrence (The Karate Kid). Lawrence was the lead fighter of the Cobra-Kai who terrorized Daniel LaRusso in 1984 in Fresno. Lawrence’s loss to LaRusso tormented him for decades. A Semi-Finalist last year, Lawrence is a Finalist for the first time.
Lee (Enter the Dragon). Lee qualifies as he participates in what was the most unorganized martial arts tournament in memory. This is his third straight year as a Finalist.
Lightning McQueen (Cars). McQueen is one of the most successful anthropomorphic automobiles that race. This is a two-time Semi-Finalist, and a Finalist for the first time.
Peter LaFleur (Dodgeball). LaFleur led his Average Joe’s Gym team to a win in the Dodgeball Open in Las Vegas. He is a three-time Finalist.
Ricky Bobby (Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby). NASCAR legend, Ricky Bobby has been a Finalist three times.
Shane Falco (The Replacements): The former Ohio State Buckeye was a replacement player Quarterback for the Washington Sentinels. Falco is a Finalist for the third time.
The Fictitious Athlete Contributors are:
Caretaker (The Longest Yard ’05): This is the Chris Rock version, and he is a Finalist for the second time.
Coach Klein (The Waterboy): The Head Coach of South Central Louisiana State was a play-making genius and a previous Finalist.
Frank Drebin (The Naked Gun): The. Detective from the Police Squad in L.A. pretended to be a Major League Umpire, while on the case. He was a Semi-Finalist last year, and makes the Finals for the first time.
George Costanza (Seinfeld): Costanza shockingly became an executive with the New York Yankees and is a two-time Semi-Finalist, and makes the Finals for the first time.
Jerry Maguire (Jerry Maguire): The most known sports agent in the fictitious world is now a three-time Finalist.
Jimmy Dugan (A League of Their Own): Since the inception of the Fictitious Athlete Hall, Dugan has been a Finalist. He had 500 career Home Runs, and would later helm the Rockford Peaches. Dugan has been a Finalist every year.
John Kreese (The Karate Kid): Kreese is a two-time Semi-Finalist and was the leader of the Cobra-Kai. This is his second straight year as a Semi-Finalist, and he cracks the Finals for the first time.
Ken Reeves (The White Shadow): A former Chicago Bull, Reeves became the head coach at Carver High in California. Reeves has been an annual Semi-Finalist, and is a Finalist for the second time.
Lou Brown (Major League): Brown went from managing the Toledo Mudhens and landed the job as the Cleveland Indians Manager. The former Tire World manager is now a two-time Finalist
Norman Dale (Hoosiers): Dale is a four-time Finalist and he led the small town Hickory High to a state championship in 1957.
Patches O’Houlihan (Dodgeball): O’Houlihan was a former dodgeball star who trained the Average Joe’s Gym for their tournament in Las Vegas. He was also a Finalist last year.
Pepper Brooks (Dodgeball): Brooks worked as the color commentator for the Dodgeball tournament on the “Ocho”. Brooks is a three-time Semi-Finalist, and is now a Finalist.
Ray Kinsella (Field of Dreams): Kinsella built a baseball diamond in his Iowa cornfield where dead baseball players came to play. He is a two-time Finalist.
Terrence Mann (Field of Dreams): An important counter-culture writer of the 1960s, Mann is a disaffected baseball fan who travels with Kinsella to his Iowa baseball diamond. He is now a Finalist.
The Gopher (Caddyshack): The gopher has been terrorizing groundskeepers at Bushwood Country Club for years, and he has been known to dance to Kenny Loggins songs. He is a three-time Semi-Finalist, and rockets to his first Finals.
The Fictitious Athlete Veterans are:
Harold Lamb (The Freshman): Lamb played college football for Tate University, and the undersized talent got the girl at the end.
Joe Boyd/Joe Hart (Damn Yankees): The superfan of the Washington Senators instantly became the team’s biggest star.
Joe Pendleton/Bruce Farnsworth/Murdoch (Here Comes Mr. Jordan): If you want a story about a reincarnated boxer, this is it!
When you can, please support our site and cast your vote for the Class of 2020!
This year, three “Athletes” two “Contributors” and one “Veteran” will be inducted.
As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank you for your support.
Why didn’t we do this before?
Allow me to pull back the curtain here at Notinhalloffame.com.
Notinhalloffame.com grew from a simple idea; rank those who are not in various Halls of Fame from the world of sports and music and create a platform for individuals to campaign for their favorite musician/athlete, or at the very least, reminisce.
As it grew, we had the opportunity to interact with other people about the various Halls of Fame, what we like, what we don’t like, and changes we would like to see made. Since, we aren’t privy to what the actual committees discuss, why not make one of our own? That is what we did.
Through Twitter, this is the group that was assembled:
@notinhalloffame (Official Twitter site of Notinhalloffame.com and run by Kirk Buchner)
@2ndHandBurrito (Evan Nolan, co-host of the Hall of Fame Show)
@konadreamssssss (Glen Pawlowski, triathlete from Buffalo)
@vancemeek (Vance Meek has blogged about the Bengals and has been a guest on our podcast.
@readjack (Jack M. Silverstein, Sports Historian and writer from Chicago)
@lhd_on_sports (David Whitlock is a blogger and commentator on lhd-on-sports.com.
@tedcrocketiiil (Ted Crockett is a veteran and follows all sports halls.
@ThomasHallNFL (Thomas Hall follows the Denver Broncos and is the host of Convincing Numbers, a show on Football Analytics. He also contributes to @milehighhuddle.
@Profhofcantonf (As his Twitter handle will tell you, Paul Lawrence has been studying the process of the Pro Football Hal of Fame for years.
@VinLospinuso91 (Vinny Lospinuso studies journalism at Hofstra, and is a regular guest on our shows.
This was a group that comes from varying fan bases and differing perspectives. As we progress, we hope to expand it, adding more people from different parts of the United States, and beyond.
Please note that in our Zoom discussion, Vance and Paul were unable to attend, but their initial votes were counted. We hope to have them on for future roundtables.
As this was the first time, we had ever done this, we decided not to record and air our discussion. As the Philadelphia 76ers management says, “Trust the Process”, and in the future, we will air our meetings to keep everything transparent.
Here was our process:
Step One: Automatic Elimination, Part One.
Each person was asked to submit their 25 selections.
If a former player received no votes, they would not be discussed, and were automatically eliminated from consideration.
Those players were:
QB Drew Bledsoe
QB Jake Delhomme
QB Jeff Garcia
QB Dave Krieg
FB Mike Alstott
RB Tiki Barber
RB Earnest Byner
RB Larry Centers
RB Eddie George
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Glyn Milburn
WR Chad Johnson
WR Derrick Mason
WR Mushin Muhammad
WR Roddey White
TE Dallas Clark
TE Brent Jones
TE Heath Miller
TE Jeremy Shockey
TE Wesley Walls
OL Matt Birk
OL D’Brickashaw Ferguson
OL Kevin Glover
OL Jordan Gross
OL Chris Samuels
OL Chris Snee
OL Brian Waters
OL Erik Williams
DL La’Roi Glover
DL Michael Dean Perry
DL Justin Smith
DL Greg Townsend
LB Seth Joyner
LB Jarod Mayo
LB Willie McGinest
LB Chris Spielman
LB Takeo Spikes
LB Darryl Talley
DB Nick Collins
DB Merton Hanks
DB James Hasty
DB Albert Lewis
DB Tim McDonald
DB Allen Rossum
DB Bob Sanders
DB Adrian Wilson
K David Akers
K Gary Anderson
K Jason Elam
K Jason Hanson
K John Kasay
K Ryan Longwell
K Nick Lowery
P Jeff Feagles
P Sean Landeta
P Rohn Stark
P Matt Turk
KR/PR Josh Cribbs
Takeaway:
There was no visceral reaction from any of us regarding those shut out of the vote. Perhaps with Chad Johnson, but we went through this stage was very quickly.
Step One: Automatic Elimination, Part Two.
If a player received all ten votes, they would not be discussed, and they automatically advanced to our list of Semi-Finalists.
Those players were:
QB Peyton Manning
WR Calvin Johnson
OL Alan Faneca
DB Charles Woodson
Takeaway:
Many of us thought there would be more unanimous picks, but it was a quick reminder why we do this, and how much fun this was going to be. It is also very clear at this time that this was a group that wanted to discuss who should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame; possibly more than those who get to make those selections. Manning, Woodson and Johnson are on their first ballot. Faneca has been a Finalist for the fifth straight year.
Step Two: Almost Unanimous
Once we determined who we would not discuss, we decided to alternated to the remaining vote getters from highest to lowest, and “sandwich” our way to the middle.
Those players were:
WR Torry Holt
OT Tony Boselli
DB LeRoy Butler
DB John Lynch
Takeaway:
We asked each other a simple question. Do we have any objection, if we put all of these men through to the Semi-Final round? Nobody had an issue, and all four of the above, all of which are former Finalists advanced.
Step Three: One and done?
There was a glut of former players who only received one vote. They were:
QB Steve McNair
RB Steven Jackson
RB Eddie George
RB Priest Holmes
RB Eric Metcalf
RB Warrick Dunn
FB Lorenzo Neal
WR Jimmy Smith
WR Donald Driver
WR Rod Smith
TE Ben Coates
OL Willie Anderson
OL Kent Hull
OL Olin Kreutz
DL Ray Childress
DL Casey Hampton
DL Justin Tuck
DL Simeon Rice
DL Leslie O’Neal
DL John Abraham
LB Cornelius Bennett
LB Tedy Bruschi
LB Joey Porter
LB London Fletcher
DB Asante Samuel
DB Charles Tillman
DB Troy Vincent
DB Rodney Harrison
KR Mel Gray
P Reggie Roby
We asked people if they wanted to make a push for one of these players, and Thomas Hall made an incredible case for Tom Nalen, the former Broncos Center. It swayed many of us, who were previously on the fence about him, and elevated him many of our minds, that it was Nalen, on not Jeff Saturday, who is the best Center available. Hall had a great piece that he wrote for Broncos Wire, that best sums up his cause.
Jack Silverstein trumpeted the pure role of a Fullback that former Charger, Lorenzo Neal, brought to the table, but it was his push of Charles “Peanut” Tillman, and reminding us all about the “Peanut Punch”, and how he helped to evolve Defensive Backs.
Everyone was then asked to submit three votes, with the top three vote-getters advancing to the round of those receiving two votes. Nalen, Tillman and Simeon Rice advanced. Others receiving consideration were Lorenzo Neal, Jimmy Smith, Donald Driver, Willie Anderson, Leslie O’Neal, John Abraham, London Fletcher, Rodney Harrison, Reggie Roby and Steve McNair.
Takeaway:
I think we would all agree that this was the round where we enjoyed the most. A free exchange of ideas and opinions and we all left re-thinking how we viewed selective players. This is what it was all about.
Step Five: Those with 80%, so still an “A”.
Back to the top, we had three who received all but two votes. They were:
WR Reggie Wayne
LB Zach Thomas
LB Patrick Willis
This was another rapid conversation, as nobody had any overt objection to push them through. Willis’s name did illicit a mild surprise that he was not a Finalist last year.
Takeaway:
Wayne and Thomas were both Finalists last year, with Willis making the Semi-Finals. Since this part was moving so quickly, we decided to continue on with the upper half of the ledger.
This brought our total to 11.
Step Six: Completing the “Upper Part of the Sandwich”
There were six players who had either seven, six or five votes. They were:
RB Shaun Alexander (7)
DL Jared Allen (7)
DL Richard Seymour (7)
LB Sam Mills (5)
DB Ronde Barber (6)
ST Steve Tasker (6)
We went with five of these players. Seymour was a Finalist last year, and is likely to be so again, and there was no concern among our group to place him through to the next round. Barber has yet to be a Finalist, but has been a Semi-Finalist. While none of us disagreed that Barber should advance, it brought up a conversation on just how good Tampa’s defence was back in the early 2000s. So far, two Hall of Famers (Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks) and counting.
Allen is on his first ballot, and many project him to be a Semi-Finalist, though based on reading the room, we may not push him further in our next meeting. As for Alexander, the Running Back and former MVP, has never been a Semi-Finalist, and has been eligible since 2014. He might be under 10,000 career Rushing Yards, but the former Seahawk is one of nine players to have 100 TDs on the ground. Alexander is the only eligible player not to be enshrined.
The love of our group for Tasker was unanimous, and those who did not vote for him initially had no problem putting him through to our Semi-Finals. Tasker was a Semi-Finalist last year, and this is his penultimate year of Modern Era eligibility.
This brings us to Sam Mills, a Finalist last year. While the respect was there for Mills, most of agreed that as good as he was, this was a very good player with an excellent story. He did not advance, and was placed in the middle section; ie; the “meat of our Hall of Fame conversation.”
Takeaway:
While the discussion on Sam Mills brought up apathy, did any of us really think that we wouldn’t put him through the Semi-Finals?
Step Seven: Two Votes
We go back to bottom with those who received two votes. As mentioned before, Nalen, Tillman and Rice advanced to this conversation. We did the same thing and opened up the floor to anyone who wanted to make a statement on these players. Those in this round are:
RB Corey Dillon
RB Herschel Walker
RB Fred Taylor
TE Keith Jackson
OL Tom Halen (advanced from previous round)
OL Logan Mankins
DL Kevin Williams
DL Simeon Rice (advanced from previous round)
LB Lance Briggs
DB Charles Tillman (advanced from previous round)
KR Brian Mitchell
The Chairman (Kirk) pushed for Herschel Walker, citing his USFL stats, and that it is a “Pro” Football Hall of Fame. Evan made a case for Kevin Williams, citing advanced analytics. Like the previous round, each person could vote on three people, with the top three voters advancing. Those were Nalen, Williams and Tillman.
Takeaway:
Taylor might have been a Semi-Finalist last year, but along with Dillon, the belief is that 10,000 Rushing Yards do not hold the same cache they used to. Shaun Alexander might not have five digits in Rushing Yards, but he was without question the best Running Back at one time. Taylor and Dillon were not. Mankins received respect in our discussion, as did Lance Briggs, as we were trying to decipher his overall impact. Brian Mitchell also received consideration.
Step Eight: The Meat of the Hall of Fame Sandwich
Here we go.
What we have left are those who received three or four votes in our original tally, and the one who fell (Mills), and the three who advanced (Nalen, Williams and Tillman).
We had nine spots left with 19 remaining candidates. They are:
QB Donovan McNabb (4)
QB Randall Cunningham (4)
RB Ricky Watters (4)
WR Hines Ward (4)
WR Henry Ellard (3)
OL Jeff Saturday (4)
OL Steve Wisnieuski (4)
OL Richmond Webb (4)
OL Lomas Brown (3)
OL Ruben Brown (3)
OL Tom Nalen (Advanced from 1 & 2)
DL Neil Smith (4)
DL Bryant Young (3)
DL Kevin Williams (Advanced from 2)
LB Sam Mills (5) (Demoted from previous round)
LB Clay Matthews (3)
LB Pat Swilling (3)
DB Eric Allen (3)
DB Charles Tillman (3)
In this final round, we opened up the floor. Here are some notes on some of the players not yet discussed.
Former Philadelphia Eagles Quarterbacks, McNabb and Cunningham were at the forefront. Neither have been a Semi-Finalist, and both have unique cases. McNabb led the Eagles to four straight NFC Championship Games, winning the fourth, but losing the Super Bowl. Randall Cunningham is a three-time Bert Bell Award winner, who was a large link in the evolution of Quarterbacks.
Lomas Brown, a nine-time Pro Bowler who recently was not even on the Preliminary Candidate list, blocked for Barry Sanders. Somebody had to help Sanders during those years right? Glenn, our Bills fan, was the biggest supporter of Richmond Webb, a seven-time Pro Bowler with the Dolphins.
Ward might have been a Semi-Finalist, but we were looking more at Henry Ellard, who at the time of his retirement was third all-time in Receiving Yards.
There was a groundswell for Swilling over Mills, for the the detitle of the defacto “Most deserving New Orleans Saint.” As for Clay Matthews, the former Cleveland Brown who is now on his last year of eligibility, was deemed to be “very good”, and nothing more.
For his round, each voter could assign three votes for their top choice, two for their second, and one vote for the next five. The results we had saw Cunningham, Webb, L. Brown, Nalen, Williams, Swilling, Ellard, Wisnieuski and Tillman advance as our Semi-Finalists.
Takeaway:
Our selection of Nalen, Williams and Tillman came out of nowhere, and proves the power of conversation. While Sam Mills is probable to be a Finalist again, it did not prevent him from falling out of our Semi-Finalists.
Just for fun, we voted as to who would be our last “five out”. They were McNabb, R. Brown, Smith, Saturday and Watters.
Summing Up:
Our 25 Semi-Finalists are:
QB Peyton Manning
QB Randall Cunningham
RB Shaun Alexander
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Torry Holt
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Henry Ellard
OL Alan Faneca
OL Tony Boselli
OL Steve Wisnieuski
OL Richmond Webb
OL Lomas Brown
OL Tom Nalen
DL Jared Allen
DL Richard Seymour
DL Kevin Williams
LB Zach Thomas
LB Patrick Willis
LB Pat Swilling
DB Charles Woodson
DB LeRoy Butler
DB John Lynch
DB Ronde Barber
DB Charles Tillman
ST Steve Tasker
Will this be the group that the Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee actually puts through?
Probably not.
While we are not making public our Zoom discussion, we intend to that in the future so that all conversations on the Hall will be transparent. We ask that of the various Halls, so we will work towards providing the same. As it stands now, you know much more about our process!
We hope you enjoyed this, and if you have any questions, please contact us. It is a conversation that we all welcome.
For more on this, on our upcoming “The Buck Stops Here: Hall of Fame Show”, Kirk and Evan go into a deep conversation as to what was discussed. Look for that soon.
What comes next?
In November, the Pro Football Hall will announce their Semi-Finalists, so we will reconvene, and see how they compared to ours. We will then take their 25, and reduce them to 15, the same way that the PFHOF does.
Thank you to everyone who participated, and we look to do more of these in the future.
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