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A PFHOF Voter States character kept Terrell Owens out of the HOF this year.
Feb 12, 2016
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We mentioned yesterday that Skip Bayless told Terrell Owens that the main reason he didn’t get chosen for the Pro Football Hall of Fame was because he was viewed as a disruption to his respective teams.
Now we know that was definitely the case.
On the Dan Patrick Show, Gary Myers, a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter who writes for the New York Daily News spoke about the in room discussions on Terrell Owens. This was part of the exchange that Myers had with guest host, Ross Tucker:
“I’ll take you inside the room on this, and it was the second longest discussion we had in the room other that Eddie DeBartolo. The bottom line on T.O. is he was so disruptive. Now with L.T., you don’t count the off-the-field stuff. That’s a mandate from the Hall of Fame. It’s only what you’ve done on the field. The argument that was made in the room, and I agree with this, is what T.O. did in the locker room is part of –”
“That counts? Why don’t you just evaluate what’s inside the white lines?
“Because I think that the locker room is an extension of that.”
“But how do you really know what happened in the locker room?”
“But he tore teams apart.”
“But how do you really know that?”
“He’s a Hall of Fame player that five teams couldn’t wait to get rid of. So what does that tell you about how disruptive he was?”
Hmmmm…
Myers would go on to say that Owens would probably get inducted eventually, which raises the question as to how in the future he is now not disruptive enough to be snubbed from Canton.
During his exchange with Bayless, Terrell Owens stated that the process was flawed insinuating that it was not balanced as only writers make the decisions as to who is Hall of Fame worthy and who is not.
So there you have it. T.O. has a reputation that he can not shake despite having unquestionable, even by the writers, Hall of Fame statistics.
Something tells us that we haven’t heard the last of this one.
Now we know that was definitely the case.
On the Dan Patrick Show, Gary Myers, a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter who writes for the New York Daily News spoke about the in room discussions on Terrell Owens. This was part of the exchange that Myers had with guest host, Ross Tucker:
“I’ll take you inside the room on this, and it was the second longest discussion we had in the room other that Eddie DeBartolo. The bottom line on T.O. is he was so disruptive. Now with L.T., you don’t count the off-the-field stuff. That’s a mandate from the Hall of Fame. It’s only what you’ve done on the field. The argument that was made in the room, and I agree with this, is what T.O. did in the locker room is part of –”
“That counts? Why don’t you just evaluate what’s inside the white lines?
“Because I think that the locker room is an extension of that.”
“But how do you really know what happened in the locker room?”
“But he tore teams apart.”
“But how do you really know that?”
“He’s a Hall of Fame player that five teams couldn’t wait to get rid of. So what does that tell you about how disruptive he was?”
Hmmmm…
Myers would go on to say that Owens would probably get inducted eventually, which raises the question as to how in the future he is now not disruptive enough to be snubbed from Canton.
During his exchange with Bayless, Terrell Owens stated that the process was flawed insinuating that it was not balanced as only writers make the decisions as to who is Hall of Fame worthy and who is not.
So there you have it. T.O. has a reputation that he can not shake despite having unquestionable, even by the writers, Hall of Fame statistics.
Something tells us that we haven’t heard the last of this one.
Our Baseball List has been revised!
Feb 11, 2016
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Over the last forty-five days, both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Baseball Hall of Fame announced their latest classes. Recently, we here at Notinhalloffame.com put together our latest list of the 500 plus Rock and Roll acts worthy of consideration for the vote that will take place in December of 2016. Our Notinhalloffame.com baseball list is naturally next.
The 2016 vote saw Ken Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza selected for Cooperstown, both of who were in our top five. Obviously, they will be taken out of our Baseball 100, but there will be three new eligible former baseball players who will join them.
Let’s take a look at our new Notinhalloffame.com Baseball Top Ten.
The 2016 vote saw Ken Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza selected for Cooperstown, both of who were in our top five. Obviously, they will be taken out of our Baseball 100, but there will be three new eligible former baseball players who will join them.
Let’s take a look at our new Notinhalloffame.com Baseball Top Ten.
Lynn Swann questions Calvin Johnson's HOF resume
Feb 11, 2016
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This must be the say for Wide Receivers to talk about the Hall of Fame.
Lynn Swann, the Hall of Famer who was a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers dynasty that won four Super Bowls and retired at the height of his career at the age of 30 and would join the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2001.
Calvin Johnson is expected to retire at the same age, but when asked if “Megatron” was a Hall of Famer, the former Pittsburgh Steeler implied in a piece with the Detroit News that Johnson should not join that elite club.
“I would think that it would be difficult for Calvin Johnson at this point to be considered a Hall of Famer. Calvin Johnson has an extreme amount of talent and ability, but when you start to look at his team, the success of his team and did he lift that team; he made them a little bit better, but at the end of the day, I’m not quite sure.
Hard to say he’s going to be in the Hall of Fame when his team hasn’t gotten to a Super Bowl, and they don’t get a chance to get into the playoffs…and that’s for a lot of guys across the board. If he had broken every passing record, like Danny Fouts, who didn’t win the Super Bowl, then yeah, I think there’s going to be consideration.”
Following this, Lynn Swann was criticized and rightly so. In Pittsburgh, he was surrounded by a dream team, where as Calvin Johnson has not exactly been blessed with the most talented group of teammates. Detroit did not make a lot of noise in the past decade, but how much worse would they have been without him?
Stat wise, it has been argued that Swann, who has half of the yards that Johnson has, should keep his mouth shut on the matter. While that was in fact a different era and the passing game has exploded since then, Swann still was never in the top five in receiving yards during his career.
Swann’s argument about playoff success is also questionable as the Pro Football Hall of Fame is full of players who do not have Super Bowl rings or NFL Championships who have a spot in Canton. Swann’s induction itself has been criticized as it was openly asked, if he were with a lesser team himself would be enshrined.
Should Calvin Johnson elect not to return to the National Football League, the Hall of Fame clock is set at 2021 for his first year of eligibility. We wonder if Swann will be vocal on that matter again.
Lynn Swann, the Hall of Famer who was a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers dynasty that won four Super Bowls and retired at the height of his career at the age of 30 and would join the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2001.
Calvin Johnson is expected to retire at the same age, but when asked if “Megatron” was a Hall of Famer, the former Pittsburgh Steeler implied in a piece with the Detroit News that Johnson should not join that elite club.
“I would think that it would be difficult for Calvin Johnson at this point to be considered a Hall of Famer. Calvin Johnson has an extreme amount of talent and ability, but when you start to look at his team, the success of his team and did he lift that team; he made them a little bit better, but at the end of the day, I’m not quite sure.
Hard to say he’s going to be in the Hall of Fame when his team hasn’t gotten to a Super Bowl, and they don’t get a chance to get into the playoffs…and that’s for a lot of guys across the board. If he had broken every passing record, like Danny Fouts, who didn’t win the Super Bowl, then yeah, I think there’s going to be consideration.”
Following this, Lynn Swann was criticized and rightly so. In Pittsburgh, he was surrounded by a dream team, where as Calvin Johnson has not exactly been blessed with the most talented group of teammates. Detroit did not make a lot of noise in the past decade, but how much worse would they have been without him?
Stat wise, it has been argued that Swann, who has half of the yards that Johnson has, should keep his mouth shut on the matter. While that was in fact a different era and the passing game has exploded since then, Swann still was never in the top five in receiving yards during his career.
Swann’s argument about playoff success is also questionable as the Pro Football Hall of Fame is full of players who do not have Super Bowl rings or NFL Championships who have a spot in Canton. Swann’s induction itself has been criticized as it was openly asked, if he were with a lesser team himself would be enshrined.
Should Calvin Johnson elect not to return to the National Football League, the Hall of Fame clock is set at 2021 for his first year of eligibility. We wonder if Swann will be vocal on that matter again.
Terrell Owens has a lot to say
Feb 10, 2016
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As you know, on his first year of eligibility Terrell Owens did not make the Pro Football Hall of Fame this past weekend, even though statistically speaking he had the best resume of any Wide Receiver who was on the ballot.
This didn’t come to a surprise to us for two reasons:
The first is that there has been a significant logjam at Wide Receiver for years. Cris Carter had to wait four years. Andre Reed had to wait nine. Tim Brown had to wait six. Marvin Harrison, who just got in, took three years, and it was expected by many that this slot would go to him after waiting for both Brown and Reed who had inferior resumes to the former Indianapolis Colt.
The second is that, justified or not, Owens does not have a stellar reputation with the media (who comprise the Hall of Fame selection panel) and many past coaches and players have labeled him a locker room disruption. The week before, former St. Louis Rams Head Coach, Mike Martz said as much, that it was a shame that Owens was a Finalist over his players, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt, and did so by slamming Owens’ character.
As such, many were waiting to hear what T.O. would say after the snub, and after some rounds on ESPN he had a lot of interesting things to say.
On the Mike and Mike Show, Owens took a shot at Cris Carter, who has been critical of Owens in the past. Owens implied that while Carter was Hall of Fame worthy, he stated that he heard from sources that Carter “begged his way into the Hall of Fame”. It is worth noting, that Cris Carter is a member of the media, working for ESPN as an analyst.
While that got for more press, we found an exchange that Owens had with Skip Bayless, the opinionated ESPN personality. Owens defended himself (very well we might add) against Bayless, who stated that he believed Owens’ did not make teams better and tore them apart, citing that this was why he was not yet in the Hall of Fame.
The entire exchange is below, and is worth watching in its entirety:
We are sure that this is a story that will have legs and we are very interested to see what else the former Wide Receiver will have to say.
This didn’t come to a surprise to us for two reasons:
The first is that there has been a significant logjam at Wide Receiver for years. Cris Carter had to wait four years. Andre Reed had to wait nine. Tim Brown had to wait six. Marvin Harrison, who just got in, took three years, and it was expected by many that this slot would go to him after waiting for both Brown and Reed who had inferior resumes to the former Indianapolis Colt.
The second is that, justified or not, Owens does not have a stellar reputation with the media (who comprise the Hall of Fame selection panel) and many past coaches and players have labeled him a locker room disruption. The week before, former St. Louis Rams Head Coach, Mike Martz said as much, that it was a shame that Owens was a Finalist over his players, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt, and did so by slamming Owens’ character.
As such, many were waiting to hear what T.O. would say after the snub, and after some rounds on ESPN he had a lot of interesting things to say.
On the Mike and Mike Show, Owens took a shot at Cris Carter, who has been critical of Owens in the past. Owens implied that while Carter was Hall of Fame worthy, he stated that he heard from sources that Carter “begged his way into the Hall of Fame”. It is worth noting, that Cris Carter is a member of the media, working for ESPN as an analyst.
While that got for more press, we found an exchange that Owens had with Skip Bayless, the opinionated ESPN personality. Owens defended himself (very well we might add) against Bayless, who stated that he believed Owens’ did not make teams better and tore them apart, citing that this was why he was not yet in the Hall of Fame.
The entire exchange is below, and is worth watching in its entirety:
We are sure that this is a story that will have legs and we are very interested to see what else the former Wide Receiver will have to say.