32. D.J. Augustin

While D.J. Augustin has shown flashes of brilliance over his career, it has always been countered with ample mistakes. Still, when he was on, Augustin showcased solid shooting, especially from the free throw line as a Bobcat (he would finish in the top ten in the NBA three times in Free Throw Percentage) and averaged over 10 Points per Game while donning Bobcat orange.
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The Pre-Integration Committee selects...nobody

We would be lying if we thought that the Pre-Integration Committee was going to select anybody, and well, we weren’t let down.

Specifically, this committee was tasked with choosing players/administrators who had their day in the sun prior to 1947, when the color barrier was finally broken.

To gain induction, a candidate must finish with at least 12 of the 16 votes (75%) from the committee.  The highest finisher was Doc Adams with 10.  Historically speaking, Adams has been uncovered as one of the father’s of the modern game and many of his innovations are still used today. 

Former players, Bill Dahlen and Harry Stovey each received eight votes.  This is especially notable for Dahlen, as he received ten on the last Pre-Integration vote three years ago.

The rest of the candidates received three votes or less.  This includes former Cardinals owner, Sam Breadon, Pitcher, Wes Ferrell, former Cincinnati Reds President, August Hermann, Shortstop, Marty Marion, First Basemen, Frank McCormick, former St. Louis Brown Stockings owner, Chris von der Ahe and Pitcher, Bucky Walters.

When a candidate receives three or less, the exact tally is not disclosed.

An excellent commentary on this year’s group of candidates was done by our own DDT, which you can find here.  It is definitely worth your time to read.

With that over, attention is heating up on a ballot led by Ken Griffey Jr., who many feel will enter on his first attempt.

Did the Pre-Integration committee get it right?



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BASEBALL'S 2016 PRE-INTEGRATION ERA COMMITTEE BALLOT: ARE THERE ANY HALL OF FAMERS LEFT?

Batter up! For 2016, the Pre-Integration Era Committee is at the plate for Baseball Hall of Fame evaluations and inductions not being done by the Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA). The Pre-Integration Era covers the period from 1876, when the National League was formed, to 1946, the last year before Major League Baseball became integrated with the introduction of African-American players Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby into, respectively, the National League and American League.
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A look at the Pre-Integration Baseball HOF Candidates

With all the talk about the upcoming Hall of Fame vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame, it is easy to forget at the Winter Meetings that will happen on December 6th and the 7th, that the Veteran’s Committee will be meeting to discuss other nominees for Cooperstown.

This year the committee in question is the Pre-Integration Era Committee, which reflects players and administrators prior to 1947, the year in which the color line was breached by Jackie Robinson. 

Before we get into the candidates they are discussing, it is worth noting a regular criticism that has been made is that these are players who at this point, nobody on the committee has seen live, and during a time when great African-American players were not allowed to participate.

Still, this is a committee that three years ago inducted three people (especially notable as the writer’s ballot yielded nobody) with former player, Deacon White, umpire, Hank O’Day and executive, Jacob Ruppert were chosen.

16 men comprise the Pre-Integration Era committee, which are:

Chuck Armstrong (Former President of the Seattle Mariners), Bert Blyleven (Hall of Fame player), Bobby Cox (Hall of Fame manager), Bill DeWitt (Managing Partner of the St. Louis Cardinals), Pat Gillick (Hall of Fame Executive), Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau), Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post Dispatch), Gary Hughes (Boston Red Sox Scout), Peter Morris (Historian), Phil Niekro (Hall of Fame player), Jack O’Connell (BBWAA), Claire Smith (Historian), Tal Smith (Former Executive), T. R. Sullivan (Historian), Gary Thorne (Historian) and Tim Wendell (Historian).

To get inducted, a candidate must receive 75% of the vote, thus obtain at least 12 votes.

The ten candidates are:

Doc Adams, a very early player in New York and multi-time president of the New York Knickerbockers.  Adams is credited with many of the modern rules of the game including instituting the Shortstop position, placing bases 90 feet apart and eliminating outs being recorded after one bounce.

Sam Breadon, the owner of the St. Louis Cardinals from 1920 to 1947.  The Cardinals would win six World Series Championships in that time frame.  Breadon was on the 2013 ballot but received three votes or less.

Bill Dahlen, a Shortstop who was a World Series winner in 1905 and is currently a sabremetric darling.  Dahlen was on the 2013 ballot and received 10 votes.  He is ranked #8 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Wes Ferrell, a Pitcher who was a two time All Star.  Ferrell was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #26 on Notinhalloffame.com.

August Herrmann, a former executive who was the President of the Cincinnati Reds from 1902 to 1927.

Marty Marion, a Shortstop who was a former MVP who won three World Series Championships.  Marion was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #69 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Frank McCormick, a First Basemen who is a former MVP and eight time All Star.  He is unranked on Notinhalloffame.com.

Harry Stovey, a First Basemen who led the NL in Home Runs in 1891.  Stovey was ranked in the past by Notinhalloffame.com, however was removed upon the elimination of all 1800’s players.

Chris von der Ahe, who was the owner of the St. Louis Brown Stockings, which are now known as the St. Louis Cardinals.

Bucky Walters, a Pitcher who won the World Series in 1939 and the National League MVP in 1940.  Walters was on the 2013 ballot but received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #65 on Notinhalloffame.com. 



Based on the 2013 vote, it is possible that Dahlen may have a decent shot at induction, but it is more conceivable that a goose egg appears instead.

What will happen with this group, and are the criticisms correct and should the Pre-Integration period cease generating discussion?

As always, eyes will be on Cooperstown this winter and the prospects of membership growth!

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Awards = HOF? Part Five: The Silver Slugger (Catcher) (MLB)

We here at Notinhalloffame.com thought it would be fun to take a look at the major awards in North American team sports and see how it translates into Hall of Fame potential.

Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential.  In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher.  In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.
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RIP: Scott Weiland

This is not news that we wanted to wake up to.

Last night, former Stone Temple Pilots lead singer, Scott Weiland, was found dead in his tour bus in Minnesota.  He was 48 years old.

Weiland, who was on tour with his band, “The Wildabouts”, gained prominence in the early 90’s with Stone Temple Pilots during the tail end of the grunge movement.  The band put out five albums and were known for songs like “Creep”, “Interstate Love Song”, “Plush”, “Big Bang Baby”, “Big Empty” and “Vasoline”. 

Disbanding in 2001, Weiland would form Velvet Revolver, which featured three former members from Guns ‘N’ Roses (Slash, Matt Sorum and Duff McKagen) and released two gold selling albums.  Stone Temple Pilots would reunite in 2008 but would be fired two years later.

Weiland had battled drug and alcohol addiction since he has been in the spotlight and was convicted of buying crack cocaine in 2005.

We here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to extend our condolences to the friends and family of Scott Weiland at this time. 

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Kurri, Francis and McKenzie are named to the HHOF Selection Committee

For our purposes, this is actually big news.

To enter the Hockey Hall of Fame you have to receive 14 votes out of 18 from the Hockey Hall of Fame Committee, so when three of them are replaced, it stands to reason that we here at Notinhalloffame.com are interested in knowing who it is.

Hall of Fame inductees, Jari Kurri and Ron Francis have been chosen to be a part of the selection committee.  Kurri is currently the General Manager of Jokerit, a Finnish club in the KHL and Francis is the Vice President and the General Manager of the Carolina Hurricanes. 

The third man selection is TSN hockey insider, Bob McKenzie, a well known fixture on NHL broadcasts for the Canadian sports flagship network. 

The trip replaces Lanny McDonald, another Hall of Famer, who has stepped down to take over as the Chairman of the Board for the Hall.  The other two replaced are American broadcaster, Mike Emrick and Hall of Fame inductee, Peter Stastny, both of which served their three year terms on the committee.

It is worth noting that TSN’s Michael Farber, Toronto Globe and Mail columnist, Eric Duhatschek and Hockey Hall of Fame inductee, Bill Torrey had their three year terms renewed and will continue on the committee.

The other 12 members of the Hockey Hall of Fame selection committee are:

John Davidson, a former goalie and the current President of Hockey Operations for the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Scotty Bowman, a 14 time Stanley Cup winner as a coach or executive.

David Branch, the Commissioner of the OHL.

Brian Burke, the President of Hockey Operations for the Calgary Flames.

Colin Campbell, the Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations for the National Hockey League.

Marc de Foy, a columnist for Le Journal de Montreal.

Mike Gartner, a Hockey Hall of Famer.

Anders Hedberg, a former NHL player and Swedish star and executive.

Igor Larionov, a Hockey Hall of Famer and former Soviet star.

David Polie, the President of Business Operations and General Mnager of the Nashville Predators.

Luc Robitaille, a Hockey Hall of Famer and the President of Business Operations with the Los Angeles Kings.



With no clear cut Hall of Fame inductees for next year, this could be the opportunity for players like Eric Lindros, Paul Kariya, Dave Andreychuk and Sergei Makarov to get the call after years of waiting on the ballot.

These eighteen men will decide the next class in June of next year, and clearly it will be the most interesting one yet!

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