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2. Johnny Bench

It cannot be quantified just how good Johnny Bench was.

The Cincinnati Reds Catcher was not just one of the best offensive players at his position ever, but he also backed that up with stellar defense and a cerebral way to call his staff. 

Our Top 50 All-Time Cincinnati Reds are now up

Again, did we ever say this would be fast?

We here at Notinhalloffame.com have completed our next all-time top 50, this time that of the Cincinnati Reds.

As for all of our top 50 players in baseball we look at the following:

  1. 1. Sabremetric tallies while with that team, mostly WAR.
  1. 2. Traditional metrics and how they finished in their respective league overall.
  1. 3. Playoff accomplishment.
  1. 4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

Remember, this is ONLY based on what a player does on that particular team and not what he accomplished elsewhere and also note that we have placed an increased importance on the first two categories.

Saying all of that, as.

The complete list can be found here, but as always we announce our top five in our news. They are:

  1. 1. Pete Rose
  1. 2. Johnny Bench
  1. 3. Frank Robinson
  1. 4. Joe Morgan
  1. 5. Barry Larkin

This is a solid top five with four Hall of Famers and one who should be.

So which team is up next?

We go back to the ice and look at the top 50 Dallas Stars of all time.

Look for that in a couple of months.

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank you for your support.

Pete Rose discusses the Baseball HOF and Johnny Bench

Never change Pete Rose!

We don’t think that we need to tell you that Pete Rose is one of our favorite people to talk about, mostly because he was banned from baseball and what was once a surefire first ballot Hall of Famer became a pariah who the Baseball Hall of Fame removed from the ballot completely.

Rose is constantly asked about the Baseball Hall of Fame and in a recent interview with the Brian Kilmeade Show he sounded off on Johnny Bench, his former teammate and Catcher with the Cincinnati Reds.  Bench has been vocal that he believes that Rose should not be allowed in the Baseball Hall of Fame due to betting on the game.  

Rose had the following to say:

“It don’t bother me but you know Johnny Bench is one guy who should have tanked God that I was born because he would have never made the Hall of Fame if I wasn’t born…Because I’m the guy he knocked in a thousand times.  You got guys in front of you guys right behind you and you got to be responsible for everybody else involved”.

We don’t think that Rose actually believes that as he would go on to say that he would always say that “Bench was the greatest Catcher that ever lived” so there is certainly some contradictory statements here but while he said there was not animosity between the two it is hard to see otherwise.

He would continue:

“I would think if he’s a Cincinnati fan and he cares about the city of Cincinnati that he would probably want me in the Hall of Fame.”

Like we said, never change Pete Rose!

Awards = HOF? Part Twenty-Three: Gold Glove Catcher

We here at Notinhalloffame.com thought it would be fun to take a look at the major awards in North American team sports and see how it translates into Hall of Fame potential.

Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential.  In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher.  In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.
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