Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot.

Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee.
As we look forward to the Pro Football Hall of Fame ceremony in a couple of weeks, speculation always goes toward the next group.  Brett Favre is a favourite of many to get inducted into the Hall next year, but what about Terrell Owens?

Owens is also eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame and like Favre is entering his first year of eligibility.  While we have Favre ranked at #1 and Owens at #7, this is a rank that puts him into the radar by us and by many other football pundits.

Statistically, Owens has everything you would want for the Hall.  He is number two all-time in receiving yards, third in receiving touchdowns and fifth in overall touchdowns.  While he does not have a Super Bowl Ring, his lone appearance in the big dance saw him shine when he was a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. 

That’s the good news for his candidacy.  I think we know the dark side of the ledger though don’t we?

Owens was known for his brushes with the media, the quarterbacks he “killed” and overall being a lockerroom cancer. 

Is this what could keep him out, or at the very least delay his induction for a bit?

We are not sure, however in an interview with the Rich Elsen Show, Owens had the following to say:

"I understand what I've done on the field and it's probably well deserving of (the Hall), but I'm being honest, it really doesn't bother me whether I get in or not.

I guess (being in the Hall) from a standpoint of a legacy or what my kids can really see what I've done, the body of work and appreciate it, then yeah, and my family," Owens told Eisen. "But me, personally, it really doesn't do anything for me because I never played the game for that. I played it because I was competitive. I played it to the point that I realized my talent and I became pretty good at it. That was my motivation. I wanted to win at all costs."

Hmmmm.

Is this a front by Owens?

Who is to say!

Our opinion at Notinhallofame.com is that Owens is a Hall of Fame Football Player, but we strongly suspect that the former wideout will be forced to wait for Canton, but realistically, he can’t wait forever.



Still, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are very curious to see how Terrell Owens will fare in regards to the Pro Football Hall of Fame!





We here at Notinhalloffame.com have been open about the fact that we modeled both our Fictitious Athlete and Fictitious Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in regards to the Preliminary, Semi-Final and Finalists rounds.  As such, we are very excited that the preliminary nominees for the 2016 Pro Football Hall of Fame have been announced. 



The nominees (and the respective ranking they have if they are on the Notinhalloffame.com Football list) are below.



An “x” denotes that he is a returning Finalist, a “y” that he is a first year nominee.



Quarterbacks:



Drew Bledsoe (#77)

y-Brett Favre (#1)

Steve McNair (#94)

Phil Simms (#48)

Vinny Testaverde

x-Kurt Warner (#28)





Running Backs:



Shaun Alexander

Ottis Anderson (#50)

Tiki Barber (#67)

Roger Craig (#11)

Stephen Davis

x-Terrell Davis (#21)

Eddie George

Priest Holmes

Edgerrin James (#17)

Daryl Johnston

Jamal Lewis

y-Clinton Portis

Herschel Walker (#35)

Ricky Watters (#36)

y-Brian Westbrook



Wide Receivers:



Isaac Bruce (#23)

Gary Clark (#53)

Henry Ellard (#76)

x-Marvin Harrison (#3)

Torry Holt (#9)

y-Terrell Owens (#7)

Sterling Sharpe (#46)

Jimmy Smith (#100)

Rod Smith (#54)





Tight Ends:



Mark Bavaro (#98)

Jay Novacek (#89)





Offensive Tackles:



Tony Boselli

Jim Covert

Joe Jacoby (#62)

Jon Jansen

Mike Kenn (#99)

Jim Lachey

x-Orlando Pace (#15)

Chris Samuels





Offensive Guards:



y-Alan Faneca (#5)

Chris Hinton (#68)

Kevin Mawae (#16)

Mark May

Nate Newton

Mark Schlereth

Steve Wisniewski (#26)



Centers:



Jeff Bostic

Jay Hilgenberg (#71)

Kent Hull

Tom Nalen  





Defensive Ends:



Dexter Manley

Charles Mann

Leslie O’Neal

Simeon Rice





Defensive Tackles:



Fred Smerlas

Bryant Young





Linebackers:



Cornelius Bennett

Tedy Bruschi

y-Keith Bulluck

x-Kevin Greene (#37)

Ken Harvey

Levon Kirkland

Clay Matthews

Willie McGinest

Karl Mecklenburg (#65)

Matt Millen

Sam Mills (#85)

Zach Thomas

y-Mike Vrabel





Cornerbacks:



Eric Allen (#44)

Ty Law (#60)

Albert Lewis

Shawn Springs

Troy Vincent

Everson Walls





Safeties:



Steve Atwater (#19)

Joey Browner

LeRoy Butler (#79)

Rodney Harrison (#96)

x-John Lynch (#57)

Lawyer Milloy

y-Darren Sharper (#66)

Darren Woodson





Kickers:



x-Morten Andersen (#83)

Gary Anderson

y-John Carney

Jason Elam

Nick Lowery





Punters:



Sean Landeta





Special Teams:



y-Ethan Albright

Brian Mitchell

Steve Tasker





Coaches:



x-Don Coryell

Bill Cowher

x-Tony Dungy

Tom Flores

Mike Holmgren

x-Jimmy Johnson

Chuck Knox

Buddy Parker

Richie Petitbon

Dan Reeves

Pete Rodriguez

Lou Saban

Marty Schottenheimer

Clark Shaughnessy

Dick Vermeil



The Semi-Finalists will be announced in November following an announcement for the Finalists prior to the NFL Playoffs.  The day before the Super Bowl, the full Class of 2016 will be unveiled.

Any surprises?  Any glaring ommisions?

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com will be keeping our eyes on this one!

It’s quite the day for us as the Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced their 25 Semi-Finalists.

Let’s take a quick look shall we?


1. Morten Andersen, Place Kicker.  Fourth Time as a Semi-Finalist: Ranked #83 on Notinhalloffame.com.

2. Steve Atwater, Safety.  Fifth Time as a Semi-Finalist: Ranked #19 on Notinhalloffame.com.

3. Tony Boselli, Offensive Tackle, First Time as a Semi-Finalist:  Unranked on Notinhalloffame.com

4. Isaac Bruce, Wide Receiver.  Second Time as a Semi-Finalist:  Ranked #23 on Notinhalloffame.com.

5. Don Coryell, Coach. Eighth Time as a Semi-Finalist.

6. Roger Craig, Running Back.  Eighth Time as a Semi-Finalist:  Ranked #11 on Notinhalloffame.com.

7. Terrell Davis, Running Back.  Tenth Time as a Semi-Finalist:  Ranked #21 on Notinhalloffame.com.

8. Tony Dungy, Coach.  Third Time as a Semi-Finalist.

9. Alan Faneca, Offensive Guard:  First Time as a Semi-Finalist: Ranked #5 on Notinhalloffame.com.

10. Brett Favre, Quarterback:  First Time as Semi-Finalist: Ranked #1 on Notinhalloffame.com.

11. Kevin Greene, Linebacker/Defensive End: Tenth Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #37 on Notinhalloffame.com.   

12. Marvin Harrison, Wide Receiver, Third Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #3 on Notinhalloffame.com.

13. Torry Holt, Wide Receiver, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #9 on Notinhalloffame.com.

14. Joe Jacoby, Offensive Tackle, Sixth Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #62 on Notinhalloffame.com.

15. Edgerrin James, Running Back, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #17 on Notinhalloffame.com.

16. Jimmy Johnson, Coach, Third Time as a Semi-Finalist.

17. Mike Kenn, Offensive Tackle, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #99 on Notinhalloffame.com.

18. Ty Law, Cornerbck, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #60 on Notinhalloffame.com.

19. John Lynch, Free Safety, Fourth Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #57 on Notinhalloffame.com

20. Kevin Mawae, Center/Offensive Guard.  Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #16 on Notinhalloffame.com.

21. Karl Mecklenburg, Linebacker.  Fifth Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #65 on Notinhalloffame.com.

22. Sam Mills, Linebacker.  First time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #85 on Notinhalloffame.com.

23. Terrell Owens, Wide Receiver, First Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #7 on Notinhalloffame.com.   

24. Orlando Pace, Offensive Tackle, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist.  Ranked #15 on Notinhalloffame.com.  

25. Kurt Warner, Quarterback, Second Time as a Semi-Finalist. Ranked #28 on Notinhalloffame.com.  



The Football Hall of Fame will announce the Finalists in January. 

Which ones will make it to next round?



“Tis the season to talk about Hall of Fames isn’t it?

The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced their Finalists, and there is no major surprise, which is usually the norm.

The headliner for most people (and for us) is former Quarterback, Brett Favre who two months ago had his number retired by the Green Bay Packers.  Favre is entering his first year of eligibility and is ranked #1 by us.

Favre is not the only first year eligible player to make the list of Finalists as Wide Receiver, Terrell Owens and Offensive Guard, Alan Faneca have also made the cut.  They are ranked and #7 and #5 respectively on our Notinhalloffame football list.

The remaining Finalists (with their Notinhalloffame rank in parenthesis) are Steve Atwater (#19), Don Coryell, Terrell Davis (#21), Tony Dungy, Kevin Greene (#37), Marvin Harrison (#3), Joe Jacoby (#62), Edgerrin James (#17), John Lynch (#57), Orlando Pace (#15) and Kurt Warner (#28).

This group joins the automatic Senior Finalists, Ken Stabler (#6) and Dick Stanfel (#30), along with Contributing Finalist, Eddie DeBartolo Jr.

To enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame must receive 80 percent of the votes.  A maximum of eight inductees can be chosen per year.

Like the Baseball Hall of Fame, We will be debating each Pro Football Finalist.



   

Terrell Owens is a Football Hall of Fame Finalist, but not everybody is happy about that. 

Former St. Louis Rams Head Coach, Mike Martz, spoke with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and was very candid about he felt about Owens being a Finalist, while his former receivers, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt were not. 

"You can't print how I felt when T.O. leapfrogged those two. That's just plain out-and-out ridiculous.  If they big-timed it and did all that dumb stuff, they'd get in probably earlier.  I think they'll eventually get in. I don't think that's an issue, but it's tragic that people think of them like that. If Marvin Harrison gets in, how could they not get in?

Look at their production. More importantly, look at their yards per catch. And then look at it consistently over a long period of time -- it'll compare to anybody. In some cases, nobody comes close. I mean nobody's even come close to what Torry did."

Along with Owens, Marvin Harrison is one of two Wide Receivers who made the Finalists for the Hall of Fame.  Bruce and Holt did not make that cut this year.

For reference here are the key statistics for all four players:






Receptions

Receiving Yards

Touchdowns

Yards/Rec

All-Purpose Yards

Owens

1,087

15,934

156

14.8

16,276

Harrison

1,102

14,580

128

13.2

14,805

Bruce

1,024

15,208

91

14.9

15,347

Holt

920

13,382

74

14.5

13,456




While T.O. does seem to have the greater overall statistics, all four are Hall of Fame caliber and it is worth noting however that Owens is the only one without a Super Bowl Ring.

Martz might be upset over the perceived snub of his Wide Receivers, he does have two players, Quarterback, Kurt Warner and Offensive Lineman, Orlando Pace have made the final round.

On Saturday, the next class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame will be announced, and you can believe we will be watching intensely!



As you know, on his first year of eligibility Terrell Owens did not make the Pro Football Hall of Fame this past weekend, even though statistically speaking he had the best resume of any Wide Receiver who was on the ballot.

This didn’t come to a surprise to us for two reasons:

The first is that there has been a significant logjam at Wide Receiver for years.  Cris Carter had to wait four years.  Andre Reed had to wait nine.  Tim Brown had to wait six.  Marvin Harrison, who just got in, took three years, and it was expected by many that this slot would go to him after waiting for both Brown and Reed who had inferior resumes to the former Indianapolis Colt. 

The second is that, justified or not, Owens does not have a stellar reputation with the media (who comprise the Hall of Fame selection panel) and many past coaches and players have labeled him a locker room disruption.  The week before, former St. Louis Rams Head Coach, Mike Martz said as much, that it was a shame that Owens was a Finalist over his players, Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt, and did so by slamming Owens’ character.

As such, many were waiting to hear what T.O. would say after the snub, and after some rounds on ESPN he had a lot of interesting things to say.

On the Mike and Mike Show, Owens took a shot at Cris Carter, who has been critical of Owens in the past.  Owens implied that while Carter was Hall of Fame worthy, he stated that he heard from sources that Carter “begged his way into the Hall of Fame”.  It is worth noting, that Cris Carter is a member of the media, working for ESPN as an analyst.

While that got for more press, we found an exchange that Owens had with Skip Bayless, the opinionated ESPN personality.  Owens defended himself (very well we might add) against Bayless, who stated that he believed Owens’ did not make teams better and tore them apart, citing that this was why he was not yet in the Hall of Fame.

The entire exchange is below, and is worth watching in its entirety:

 


We are sure that this is a story that will have legs and we are very interested to see what else the former Wide Receiver will have to say.





We mentioned yesterday that Skip Bayless told Terrell Owens that the main reason he didn’t get chosen for the Pro Football Hall of Fame was because he was viewed as a disruption to his respective teams.

Now we know that was definitely the case. 

On the Dan Patrick Show, Gary Myers, a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter who writes for the New York Daily News spoke about the in room discussions on Terrell Owens.   This was part of the exchange that Myers had with guest host, Ross Tucker:

“I’ll take you inside the room on this, and it was the second longest discussion we had in the room other that Eddie DeBartolo.  The bottom line on T.O. is he was so disruptive. Now with L.T., you don’t count the off-the-field stuff. That’s a mandate from the Hall of Fame. It’s only what you’ve done on the field. The argument that was made in the room, and I agree with this, is what T.O. did in the locker room is part of –”

“That counts?  Why don’t you just evaluate what’s inside the white lines?

“Because I think that the locker room is an extension of that.”

“But how do you really know what happened in the locker room?”

“But he tore teams apart.”

“But how do you really know that?”

“He’s a Hall of Fame player that five teams couldn’t wait to get rid of.  So what does that tell you about how disruptive he was?”

Hmmmm…

Myers would go on to say that Owens would probably get inducted eventually, which raises the question as to how in the future he is now not disruptive enough to be snubbed from Canton.

During his exchange with Bayless, Terrell Owens stated that the process was flawed insinuating that it was not balanced as only writers make the decisions as to who is Hall of Fame worthy and who is not. 

So there you have it.  T.O. has a reputation that he can not shake despite having unquestionable, even by the writers, Hall of Fame statistics.

Something tells us that we haven’t heard the last of this one.

A few weeks ago, the Pro Football Hall of Fame inducted their latest class, which means one thing for us at Notinhalloffame.com…it is time to revamp our list our top 100 on the football list for next year’s class!

Recapping what happened last year, Brett Favre (#1), Marvin Harrison (#3), Ken Stabler (#6), Orlando Pace (#15), Dick Stanfel (#30) and Kevin Greene (#37) were selected along with Eddie DeBartolo Jr. and Tony Dungy were all inducted.  With three of our top ten chosen, a major overhaul at the top has occurred as three new eligible entrants made the top ten.

Jerry Kramer, the only man who was named to the 75th NFL Anniversary Team who was not named to the Pro Football Hall of Fame returns to the top spot.  Kramer played in the first two Super Bowls with the Green Bay Packers and remains a Lambeau legend.

LaDainian Tomlinson, the former Running Back who will be eligible for the first time, holds #2.  Tomlinson spent most of his career with the San Diego Chargers and he is a former three time First Team All Pro and was the MVP in 2006.  Tomlinson is also a two time rushing champion.

Former Super Bowl MVP, Chuck Howley, has his highest rank at #3.  Howley is a six time Pro Bowl Selection.

At #4 is Alan Faneca, who is entering his second year of eligibility.  The former Offensive Lineman was a Finalist last year. 

L.C. Greenwood is ranked at #5.  The former Defensive End helped the Pittsburgh Steelers to four Super Bowls and he has been a Hall of Fame Finalist six times.

The always controversial, Terrell Owens, returns at #6.  The Wide Receiver has been vocal about the Hall of Fame voting process being flawed and has been the subject of much debate.

The now eligible Brian Dawkins comes in at #7.  Dawkins adds to the already heavy logjam at Safety.

Torry Holt, who was not a Finalist last year, is ranked at #8.

AFL star, Johnny Robinson is at #9.  Robinson is a former Super Bowl winner with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Rounding out the top ten is another new entry, Defensive Tackle, Jason Taylor, a six time Pro Bowler.

The other new entries to our Notinhalloffame.com Football list are:

Former Super Bowl MVP, Hines Ward enters our list for the first time at the #21 spot.

The “infamous” Ochocinco, Chad Johnson debuts at the #26 spot.

Former Quarterback, Donovan McNabb, enters our list at #30.

Wide Receiver, Derrick Mason makes his first appearance on our list at #59

Former Chicago Bear, Offensive Lineman, Olin Kreutz debuts at #69.

At #96, Joey Porter, the former Pittsburgh Steeler Linebacker who helped the Steelers win Super Bowl XL.

Gang, you know what we want you to do!  Take a look at the new entries and cast your votes and give us your opinions.

As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to thank all of you for your support!

While players in the National Football League are a fraternity, it is clear that they don’t necessarily always get along. 

Recently on Talk of Fame Radio, Marvin Harrison, who was inducted into the Hall of Fame this year, spoke very candidly about Terrell Owens, who did not get in:



“I’m not concerned about, you know, T.O. Not one bit. I was concerned about myself. I wasn’t worried about splitting the vote with anyone. That was it.

The person who was supposed to get in got in. And that was me. If he didn’t get in, that’s his problem. He can talk all that other bullshit like he’s been doing. That’s on him. But I’m in. My jacket is gold. I will look in the rear view for nobody.

So he can get his ass in whenever he gets in … if he gets in. If he doesn’t get in too bad. The hell with him.”



Harrison got in on his third try.  Owens was entering his first year of eligibility.  We expect that T.O. will get in and likely won’t have to wait much longer.

Damn, we love it when athletes speak their minds!

The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced the 97 men who comprise their Preliminary Nominees. 

Let’s get right to it and take a look at the complete list.

* Denotes Finalist

+ Denotes First Year of Eligibility

Quarterbacks:

Drew Bledsoe: 1993-2006.  New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, Dallas Cowboys.  1 Super Bowl, 4 Pro Bowls, 44,611 Passing Yards, 251 TD Passes, 137 PFRAV.  Ranked #72 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Randall Cunningham: 1985-2001.  Philadelphia Eagles, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens.  1 First Team All Pro, 4 Pro Bowls.  29,979 Passing Yards, 207 TD Passes, 134 PFRAV.   Ranked #43 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Doug Flutie: 1986-2005.  Chicago Bears, New England Patriots, San Diego Chargers.  1 Pro Bowl.  14,715 Passing Yards, 86 Touchdowns, 58 PFRAV. 

+ Donovan McNabb:  1999-2011.  Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Minnesota Vikings.  6 Pro Bowls.  37,276 Passing Yards, 234 Touchdown Passes, 138 PFRAV.  Ranked #30 on Notinhalloffame.com.   

Steve McNair:  1995-2007.  Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens.  1 MVP, 3 Pro Bowls.  31,304 Passing Yards, 174 Touchdown Passes, 126 PFRAV.  Ranked #89 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Phil Simms:  1979-1993.  New York Giants.  2 Super Bowls, 2 Pro Bowls.  33,462 Passing Yards, 199 Touchdown Passes, 118 PFRAV.  Ranked #46 on Notinhalloffame.com.

* Kurt Warner:  1998-2009.  St. Louis Rams, New York Giants, Arizona Cardinals.  1 Super Bowl, 2 MVPs, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 4 Pro Bowls.  32,344 Passing Yards, 208 Touchdown Passes, 113 PFRAV.  Ranked #22 on Notinhalloffame.com.



Running Backs:

Shaun Alexander:  2000-2008.  Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins.  1 MVP, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 3 Pro Bowls.  9,453 Rushing Yards, 100 Rushing Touchdowns, 1,511 Receiving Yards, 12 Receiving Touchdowns, 79 PFRAV.

Ottis Anderson:  1979-1992.  St. Louis Cardinals, New York Giants.  2 Super Bowls, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 2 Pro Bowls.  10,272 Rushing Touchdowns, 81 Rushing Touchdowns, 3,062 Receiving Yards, 5 Receiving Touchdowns, 98 PFRAV.  Ranked #51 on Notinhalloffame.com

Tiki Barber:  1997-2006.  New York Giants.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 3 Pro Bowls.  10,449 Rushing Yards, 55 Rushing Touchdowns, 5,183 Receiving Touchdowns, 12 Receiving Touchdowns, 118 PFRAV.  Ranked #77 on Notinhalloffame.com

Roger Craig:  1983-93.  San Francisco 49ers, Los Angeles Raiders, Minnesota Vikings.  3 Super Bowls, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  8,189 Rushing Yards, 56 Rushing Touchdowns, 4,911 Receiving Touchdowns, 17 Receiving Touchdowns, 115 PFRAV.  Ranked #11 on Notinhalloffame.com

* Terrell Davis:  1995-2001.  Denver Broncos.  2 Super Bowls, 1 MVP, 3 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  7,607 Rushing Yards, 60 Rushing Touchdowns, 1,280 Receiving Yards, Receiving Touchdowns, 78 PFRAV.  Ranked #19 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Eddie George:  1996-2004.  Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans, Dallas Cowboys.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  10,441 Rushing Yards, 68 Rushing Touchdowns, 2,227 Receiving Yards, 10 Receiving Touchdowns, 91 PFRAV.

* Edgerrin James:  1999-2009. Indianapolis Colts, Arizona Cardinals, Seattle Seahawks. 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  12,246 Rushing Yards, 80 Rushing Touchdowns, 3,364 Receiving Yards, 11 Receiving Touchdowns, 136 PFRAV.  Ranked #14 on Notinhalloffame.com

Eric Metcalf:  1989-2002.  Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Falcons, San Diego Chargers, Arizona Cardinals, Carolina Panthers, Washington Redskins, Green Bay Packers.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  2,392 Rushing Yards, 12 Rushing Touchdowns, 5,572 Receiving Yards, 3 Receiving Touchdowns, 3,453 Punt Return Yards, 10 Punt Return Touchdowns, 5,813 Kick Returns Yards, 2 Kick Return Touchdowns, 77 PFRAV.

+ LaDainian Tomlinson:  2001-2011.  San Diego Chargers, New York Jets.  1 MVP, 3 First Team All Pro Selections, 5 Pro Bowls.  13,684 Rushing Yards, 145 Rushing Touchdowns, 4,772 Rushing Yards, 17 Rushing Touchdowns, 157 PFRAV.  Ranked #2 on Notinhalloffame.com

Herschel Walker:  1986-1997.  Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants.  2 Pro Bowls.  8,225 Rushing Yards, 61 Rushing Touchdowns, 4,859 Receiving Yards, 2 Receiving Touchdowns, 5,084 Kick Return Yards, 2 Kick Return Touchdowns, 98 PFRAV.  Ranked #36 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Ricky Watters:  1992-2001.  San Francisco 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles, Seattle Seahawks.  1 Super Bowl, 5 Pro Bowls.  10,643 Rushing Yards, 68 Rushing Touchdowns, 4,248 Receiving Yards, 13 Receiving Touchdowns, 125 PFRAV.  Ranked #38 on Notinhalloffame.com.



Fullbacks:

Larry Centers:  1990-2003.  Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, Washington Redskins, Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots.  1 Super Bowl, 3 Pro Bowls.  2,188 Rushing Touchdowns, 14 Rushing Touchdowns, 6,797 Receiving Yards, 28 Receiving Touchdowns, 67 PFRAV.

Daryl Johnston:  1989-1999.  Dallas Cowboys.  3 Super Bowls, 2 Pro Bowls.  2,227 Rushing Yards, 14 Rushing Touchdowns, 753 Receiving Yards, 8 Receiving Touchdowns, 30 PFRAV.



Wide Receivers: 

Isaac Bruce: 1994-2009.  Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, San Francisco 49ers.  1 Super Bowl, 4 Pro Bowls. 15,208 Receiving Yards, 91 Receiving Touchdowns, 137 PFRAV.  Ranked #24 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Henry Ellard:  1983-1998.  Los Angeles Rams, Washington Redskins, New England Patriots.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  13,777 Receiving Yards, 65 Receiving Touchdowns, 1,527 Punt Return Yards, 4 Punt Return Touchdowns, 364 Kick Return Yards, 133 PFRAV.  Ranked #91 on Notinhalloffame.com

Torry Holt:  1999-2009.  St. Louis Rams, Jacksonville Jaguars.  1 Super Bowl, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 7 Pro Bowls.  13,382 Receiving Yards, 74 Receiving Touchdowns, 123 PFRAV.  Ranked #8 on Notinhalloffame.com

+ Chad Johnson:  2001-2011.   Cincinnati Bengals, New England Patriots.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  11,059 Receiving Yards, 67 Receiving Touchdowns, 104 PFRAV.  Ranked #26 on Notinhalloffame.com

+ Derrick Mason:  1997-2011.   Tennessee Titans, Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 2 Pro Bowls.  12,061 Receiving Yards, 66 Receiving Touchdowns, 1,590 Punt Return Yards, 2 Punt Return Touchdowns, 3,496 Kick Return Yards, 1 Kick Return Touchdown, 114 PFRAV.  Ranked #59 on Notinhalloffame.com.

* Terrell Owens:  1996-2010.  San Francisco 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, Buffalo Bills, Cincinnati Bengals.  4 First Team All Pro Selection, 6 Pro Bowls.  15,934 Receiving Yards, 153 Receiving Touchdowns, 165 PFRAV.  Ranked #6 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Sterling Sharpe:  1988-1994.  Green Bay Packers.  3 First Team All Pro Selection, 5 Pro Bowls.  8,134 Receiving Yards, 65 Receiving Touchdowns, 78 PFRAV.  Ranked #47 on Notinhalloffame.com

Jimmy Smith:  1992-2005.  Dallas Cowboys, Jacksonville Jaguars.  5 Pro Bowls.  12,287 Receiving Yards, 67 Receiving Touchdowns, 135 PFRAV.  Ranked #99 on Notinhalloffame.com

Rod Smith:  1995-2006.  Denver Broncos.  3 Pro Bowls.  11,389 Receiving Yards, 68 Receiving Touchdowns, 125 PFRAV.  Ranked #60 on Notinhalloffame.com.

+ Hines Ward:  1998- 2011.  Pittsburgh Steelers.  2 Super Bowls, 4 Pro Bowls.  12,083 Receiving Yards, 85 Receiving Touchdowns, 118 PFRAV.  Ranked #21 on Notinhalloffame.com.



Tight Ends:

Mark Bavaro:  1985-1994.  New York Giants, Cleveland Browns, Philadelphia Eagles.  2 Super Bowls, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 2 Pro Bowls.  4,733 Receiving Yards, 39 Receiving Touchdowns, 45 PFRAV.



Offensive Lineman:

Tony Boselli:  1995-2001.  Jacksonville Jaguars.  3 First Team All Pro Selections, 5 Pro Bowls.  70 PFRAV.

Ray Donaldson:  1980-1996.  Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys.  1 Super Bowl, 6 Pro Bowls.  113 PFRAV.

* Alan Faneca:  1998-2010.  Pittsburgh Steelers, New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals.  1 Super Bowl, 6 First Team All Pro Selections, 9 Pro Bowls.  148 PFRAV.  Ranked #4 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Jay Hilgenberg:  1981-1993.  Chicago Bears, New Orleans Saints.  1 Super Bowl, 7 Pro Bowls.  105 PFRAV.  Ranked #73 on Notinhalloffame.com. 

Chris Hinton:  1983-1995.  Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, Atlanta Falcons, Minnesota Vikings.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 7 Pro Bowls.  101 PFRAV.  Ranked #65 on Notinhalloffame.com.   

Kent Hull:  1986-1996.  Buffalo Bills.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  107 PFRAV. 

* Joe Jacoby:  1981-1993.  Washington Redskins.  3 Super Bowls, 2 First Team, All Pro Selections, 4 Pro Bowls.  103 PFRAV.  Ranked #56 on Notinhalloffame.com

Mike Kenn:  1978-1994.  Atlanta Falcons.  2 First Team All Pro Selections.  5 Pro Bowls.  138 PFRAV.      Ranked #100 on Notinhalloffame.com

+ Olin Kreutz:  1998-2011.  Chicago Bears, New Orleans Saints.  1 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls, 96 PFRAV.  Ranked #69 on Notinhalloffame.com

Jim Lachey:  1985-1995.  San Diego Chargers, Los Angeles Raiders, Washington Redskins, 1 Super Bowl, 3 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  92 PFRAV.

Kevin Mawae:  1994-2009.  Seattle Seahawks, New York Jets, Tennessee Titans.  3 First Team All Pro Selections, 8 Pro Bowls.  154 PFRAV.  Ranked #18 on Notinhalloffame.com

Tom Nalen:  1994-2007.  Denver Broncos.  2 Super Bowls, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 5 Pro Bowls.  131 PFRAV.

Nate Newton:  1986-1999.  Dallas Cowboys, Carolina Panthers.  3 Super Bowls, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  105 PFRAV.

Steve Wisniewski:  1989-2001.  Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 8 Pro Bowls.  140 PFRAV.  Ranked #29 on Notinhalloffame.com



Defensive Lineman:

Leslie O’Neal:  1986-1999.  San Diego Chargers, St. Louis Rams, Kansas City Chiefs.  6 Pro Bowls.  3 Interceptions, 132.5 Quarterback Sacks, 115 PFRAV.

Simeon Rice:  1996-2007.  Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts.  1 Super Bowl, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 3 Pro Bowls.  5 Interceptions, 122 Quarterback Sacks, 106 PFRAV.

Fred Smerlas:  1979-1992.  Buffalo Bills, San Francisco 49ers, New England Patriots.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 5 Pro Bowls.  2 Interceptions, 18.5 Quarterback Sacks, 101 PFRAV.

+ Jason Taylor:  1997-2011.  Miami Dolphins, Washington Redskins, New York Jets.  3 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  8 Interceptions, 139.5 Quarterback Sacks, 160 PFRAV.  Ranked #10 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Bryant Young:  1994-2007.  San Francisco 49ers, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Browns.  1 Super Bowl, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.   3 Interceptions, 89.5 Quarterback Sacks, 118 PFRAV.



Linebackers:

Carl Banks: 1984-1995    New York Giants.  2 Super Bowls, 1 Pro Bowl.    39.5 Quarterback Sacks, 83 PFRAV.

Cornelius Bennett:  1987-2000.  Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, Indianapolis Colts.  7 Interceptions, 71.5 Quarterback Sacks, 121 PFRAV.

Tedy Bruschi: 1996 -2008.   New England Patriots.  3 Super Bowls, 1 Pro Bowl.  12 Interceptions, 30.5 Quarterback Sacks, 89 PFRAV.

Seth Joyner:  1986-1998.  Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals, Green Bay Packers, Denver Broncos.  1 Super Bowl, 3 Pro Bowls.  24 Interceptions, 52 Quarterback Sacks, 108 PFRAV.

Levon Kirkland:  1992-2002.  Pittsburgh Steelers, Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 2 Pro Bowls.  19.5 Quarterback Sacks, 104 PFRAV.

Clay Matthews:  1978-1996.  Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Falcons.  4 Pro Bowls. 16 Interceptions, 69.5 Quarterback Sacks, 137 PFRAV.

Willie McGinest:  1994-2008.   New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns.  3 Super Bowls, 2 Pro Bowls.  5 Interceptions, 86 Quarterback Sacks 106 PFRAV.

Karl Mecklenburg:  1983-1994.   Denver Broncos.  3 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  5 Interceptions, 79 Quarterback Sacks, 113 PFRAV.  Ranked #64 on Notinhalloffame.com.  

Sam Mills: 1986-1997.  New Orleans Saints, Carolina Panthers.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 5 Pro Bowls.  11 Interceptions, 20.5 Quarterback Sacks, 126 PFRAV.  Ranked #84 on Notinhalloffame.com

+ Joey Porter: 1999-2011.  Pittsburgh Steelers, Miami Dolphins, Arizona Cardinals.  1 Super Bowl, 4 Pro Bowls. 12 Interceptions, 98 Quarterback Sacks, 111 PFRAV.  Ranked #96 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Zach Thomas: 1996-2008.  5 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  17 Interceptions, 20.5 Quarterback Sacks, 152 PFRAV.



Defensive Backs:

Eric Allen:  1988-2001.  Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints, Oakland Raiders.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 6 Pro Bowls 54 Interceptions, 3 Quarterback Sacks, 132 PFRAV.  Ranked #45 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Steve Atwater:  1989-1999.  Denver Broncos, New York Jets.  2 Super Bowls, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 8 Pro Bowls.  24 Interceptions, 5 Quarterback Sacks, 99 PFRAV.   Ranked #17 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Joey Browner:  1983-1992.  Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.  3 First Team All Pro Selections, 6 Pro Bowls.  37 Interceptions, 9.5 Quarterback Sacks, 85 PFRAV.

LeRoy Butler:  1990-2001.  Green Bay Packers.  1 Super Bowl, 4 First Team All Pro Selections, 4 Pro Bowls.   38 Interceptions, 20.5 Quarterback Sacks, 111 PFRAV.   Ranked #83 on Notinhalloffame.com

+ Brian Dawkins:  1996-2011.  Philadelphia Eagles, Denver Broncos.  4 First Team All Pro Selections, 9 Pro Bowls.  37 Interceptions, 26 Quarterback Sacks, 140 PFRAV.  Ranked #7 on Notinhalloffame.com

Rodney Harrison:  1994-2008.  San Diego Chargers, New England Patriots.  2 Super Bowls, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 2 Pro Bowls.  34 Interceptions, 30.5 Quarterback Sacks, 92 PFRAV.

Ty Law:  1995-2009.  New England Patriots, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs, Denver Broncos.  3 Super Bowls, 5 Pro Bowls.  53 Interceptions, 5 Quarterback Sacks, 113 PFRAV.   Ranked #48 on Notinhalloffame.com

Albert Lewis:  1983-1998.  Kansas City Chiefs, Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 4 Pro Bowls.  42 Interceptions, 12.5 Quarterback Sacks, 108 PFRAV.

* John Lynch:  1993-2007.  Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Denver Broncos.  1 Super Bowl, 9 Pro Bowls.  26 Interceptions, 13 Quarterback Sacks, 118 PFRAV.  Ranked #42 on Notinhalloffame.com

Frank Minnifield:  1984-1992.  Cleveland Browns.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  20 Interceptions, 71 PFRAV.

+ Bob Sanders:  2004-2011.  Indianapolis Colts, Dan Diego Chargers.  1 Super Bowl, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 2 Pro Bowls.  6 Interceptions, 34 PFRAV.

Darren Sharper:  1997-2010.   Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints   63 Interceptions, 7.5 Quarterback Sacks, 118 PFRAV.  1 Super Bowl, 2 First Team All Pro Selections, 5 Pro Bowls.  Ranked #79 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Dennis Smith:  1981-1994.  Denver Broncos.  6 Pro Bowls.  30 Interceptions, 15 Quarterback Sacks, 98 PFRAV.

Troy Vincent:  1992-2006.  Miami Dolphins, Philadelphia Eagles, Buffalo Bills, Washington Redskins.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 5 Pro Bowls.  47 Interceptions, 5.5 Quarterback Sacks, 118 PFRAV.

Everson Walls:  1981-1993.  Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Cleveland Browns.  1 Super Bowl, 1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  57 Interceptions, 3 Quarterback Sacks, 105 PFRAV.

Darren Woodson:  1992-2003.  Dallas Cowboys.  3 Super Bowls, 3 First Team All Pro Selections, 5 Pro Bowls.  23 Interceptions, 11 Quarterback Sacks, 96 PFRAV.



Kickers/Punters:

Morten Andersen:  1982-2007.  New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons, New York Giants, Kansas City Chiefs, Minnesota Vikings.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 7 Pro Bowls.  565 Field Goals Made, 849 Extra Points Made, 97 PFRAV.  Ranked #62 on Notinhalloffame.com.

Gary Anderson:  1982-2004.  Pittsburgh Steelers, San Francisco 49ers, Minnesota Vikings, Tennessee Titans.  1 First Team All Pro Selection, 4 Pro Bowls.  538 Field Goals Made, 820 Extra Points Made, 91 PFRAV.

Sean Landeta:  1985-2005.  New York Giants, Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Green Bay Packers, Philadelphia Eagles.  2 Super Bowls, 3 First Team All Pro Selections, 2 Pro Bowls.  1,401 Punts, 50 PFRAV.

Nick Lowery:  1978-1994.  New England Patriots, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets.  2 First Team All Pro Selections, 3 Pro Bowls.  383 Field Goals Made, 562 Extra Points Made, 81 PFRAV.



Special Teams:

Brian Mitchell:  1990-2003.  Washington Redskins, Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants.  1 Super Bowl, 1 Pro Bowl.  4,999 Punt Return Yards, 9 Punt Return Touchdowns, 14,014 Kick Return Yards, 4 Kick Return Touchdowns, 1,967 Rushing Yards, 12 Rushing Touchdowns, 2,336 Receiving Yards, 4 Receiving Touchdowns, 49 PFRAV.

Steve Tasker:  1985-1997.  Houston Oilers, Buffalo Bills.  779 Receiving Yards, 9 Receiving Touchdowns, 7 PFRAV.  Ranked #86 on Notinhalloffame.com.



Coaches:

Don Coryell:  1973-1986.  St. Louis Cardinals, San Diego Chargers.  111-83-1 Record, 3-6 Playoff Record.

Bill Cowher:  1992-2006. Pittsburgh Steelers.  161-99-1 Record, 12-9 Playoff Record, 1 Super Bowl.

Tom Flores:  1979-1987, 1992-1994.  Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, Seattle Seahawks.  97-87 Record, 8-3 Playoff Record, 2 Super Bowls.

Mike Holmgren:  1992-2008.  Green Bay Packers, Seattle Seahawks.  161-111 Record, 13-11 Playoff Record, 1 Super Bowl.

Jimmy Johnson:  1989-1999.  Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins.  80-64 Record, 9-4 Playoff Record, 2 Super Bowls.

Chuck Knox:  1973-1994.  Los Angels Rams, Buffalo Bills, Seattle Seahawks.  186-147-1 Record, 7-11 Playoff Record.

Buddy Parker:  1949-1964.  Chicago Cardinals, Detroit Lions, Pittsburgh Steelers.  104-75-9 Record, 3-1 Playoff Record.

Richie Petitbon:  1981-1992.  Washington Redskins (Defensive Coordinator)

Dan Reeves:  1981-2003.  Denver Broncos, New York Giants, Atlanta Falcons.  190-165-2 Record.  11-9 Playoff Record.

Clark Shaughnessy:  1948-1949.  Los Angeles Rams.  1951-1962.  Chicago Bears (Defensive Coordinator)

Dick Vermeil:  1976-1982, 1997-1999, 2001-2005.  Philadelphia Eagles, St. Louis Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs.  120-109 Record, 6-5 Playoff Record, 1 Super Bowl.

Please note that we do not rank Coaches.



With the large amount of players it is hard to perceive that there are any snubs, which there isn’t. 

In November this group of 97 Modern Era Nominees will be reduced to 18.  In January of 2017, it will be shrunk to 15.  They will join the Senior Finalist and Contributor Finalists and on February 4, the day before the Super Bowl, the respective committees will decide the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2017.

You know we will be paying attention!

We love this time of the year!

The Pro Football Hall of Fame has announced their Finalists for the Class of 2017, and as usual there are only moderate surprises.

The 15 finalists are as follows:
Normally, the Pro Football Hall of Fame is relatively easy to forecast as they don’t normally have surprises, but with this year’s class, we are a little befuddles with some of this year’s selections, or rather this year’s snubs.

Let’s start with who got in.
The core of our Notinhalloffame.com has always been our sports lists.  As such, it is with great pride that we have updated our Pro Football Hall of Fame list of those to consider for enshrinement in Canton, Ohio

The 2017 Hall of Fame Class added five players who we had listed (LaDainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Terrell Davis, Kurt Warner and Morten Andersen), and we did not have trouble replacing them.  Actually, we have increased our 100 slightly to 103, for an impending increase in the months (ok, maybe years to come).

The revised ranking is based on your votes and comments and the addition of newly eligible former players.
Let’s get right to it!

Former Baltimore Ravens Linebacker Ray Lewis debuts at the number one spot.  The 13 Time Pro Bowl Selection was chosen for seven First Team All Pro slots and took Baltimore to two Super Bowl wins.  Lewis is likely to get inducted on his first try.

This drops perennial snub, Jerry Kramer to number 2.  Kramer was a Finalist nine times and helped Green Bay win the first two Super Bowls.  He is the only member of the NFL 75th Anniversary Team not to be enshrined.

Randy Moss makes his first appearance on the list at #3.  The former Wide Receiver is the highest ranked skill player and his appearance makes it harder for Terrell Owens to get in.  Moss was a Pro Bowler seven times and is third all-time in Receiving Yards and second all-time in Receiving Touchdowns.

Former Pittsburgh Steelers Offensive Lineman, Alan Faneca, remains at number four.  Faneca, a nine time Pro Bowler was a Finalist for Canton in the past two seasons.

Chuck Howley comes in at number five.  The MVP of Super Bowl V was a six time Pro Bowl Selection and was chosen for five consecutive First Team All Pros.

Another former Pittsburgh Steeler, L.C. Greenwood is in the top ten at number six.  Greenwood has been named a Finalist six times and was a part of the Steelers dynasty that won four Super Bowls in the 1970’s.  He was ranked #5 last year.

Brian Dawkins returns at number seven.  “Weapon X” was eligible for the first time last year and many expected that he would get inducted on his first try.  He didn’t but was a Finalist last yea

At number eight is Terrell Owens, who dropped two spots from last year.  T.O was a finalist in his first two years of eligibility but has been very vocal about being passed over.  This could really cost him.  He is second all-time in Receiving Yards, third in Receiving Touchdowns and eight in Receptions.

Brian Urlacher debuts at number nine, making three new eligible in the top ten.  The career Chicago Bear went to eight Pro Bowls and was selected for four First Team All Pros. 

Rounding out the top ten is Johnny Robinson who is known for his time with the Kansas City Chiefs.  The former Safety has been a Hall of Fame Finalist six times and has a Super Bowl ring with the Chiefs.

Another high profile debut entry is Ronde Barber, the long time Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive Back who appears at #15. 

Offensive Lineman, Steve Hutchinson makes his first appearance on the list at #34.

Former three time Super Bowl winner with the New England Patriots, Richard Seymour comes in at #48.  He is a seven time Pro Bowler.

Matt Birk, the Center who split his career with the Minnesota Vikings and the Baltimore Ravens, is ranked at #67.

Jeff Saturday, who protected Peyton Manning for Years and went to six Pro Bowls makes his debut at #76. 

We have also added Tony Boselli, who was a Finalist last year, but was unranked by us previously.  The man considered to be the greatest Jacksonville Jaguar of all-time finally makes his first appearance on our list at number 81.

The entire list can be found here.

Gang, you know what we want you to do!

Take a look at these revisions and cast your votes and give us your opinions!

We will soon be unveiling our Basketball Revisions and look for that unveiling soon.

As always, we thank you for your support!

8. Terrell Owens

Hands down, this has to be the most interesting player on this list to seek entry into Canton is Terrell Owens.

Statistically speaking, T.O. has the resume. As of this writing, he is number two in Receiving Yards, third in Receiving Touchdowns and sixth in receptions. He had seasons as a dominating player, earning five First Team All Pro nods and six Pro Bowls, and in his lone Super Bowl appearance he was a beast with 122 Yards despite coming off a horse collar tackle injury. That’s what should put him in; now here is what could keep him out.