Andy Pettitte to 250 Wins



It was not that long ago that we here at Notinhalloffame.com looked at two pitchers (Roy Halladay and Tim Hudson) who reached the 200 Win milestone and openly discussed their overall Cooperstown credentials. We now have had a greater milestone achieved, that of 250 wins by Andy Pettitte, who secured that feat by defeating the Seattle Mariners today. Pettitte is currently the active pitcher with the most career wins, but unlike Roy Halladay, who has significantly less, we are not sure that Pettitte measures up.


First off, there is the PED question. The New York Yankee is an admitted PED user in the past, but he set the blueprint that virtually every other caught Baseball player should follow on what to do if becoming associated with Performance Enhancing Drugs. That part of Pettitte’s history is hardly brought up anymore, though we can imagine that once he becomes eligible for the Baseball Hall of Fame, it will be brought up again. However, if we take that out of the equation, do his 250 wins bring him a little bit closer? In our opinion, it very well might.

Andy Pettitte was a Cy Young Runner up in 1997, and three other times was a top five finisher. However, he was associated with very good seasons, and never won that was truly dominant. His All Star appearances only total three, and his top ten finishes in major categories are not at a mark that screams to us “Hall of Fame”.

He did have the most Wins in 1996 in the American League, and was a top ten finisher five other times, however he only was in the top ten in ERA three times, and never had a top ten finish in WHIP. With WAR for Pitchers, Pettitte also finished in top ten only three times.

Statistical accumulation might be his best route for potential induction. Since his return to the Major Leagues, he has added ten wins, moving from 240 to 250, and ten spots in the all-time rankings, where he is currently 47th. He has added 2.6 in his career WAR for Pitchers, which moved him eight spots to the 62nd all-time career rank.

At the age of 41, Pettitte can’t have much more left, and though he has been relatively productive this season, we think a lot more will have to be done before we could pencil him in for enshrinement. Now, we want to know what you think!
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0 #1 Darryl Tahirali 2013-06-12 17:29
Good assessment. Wins are going to be a legacy consideratio n for the Hall for a little while longer, and Andy Pettitte enters the discussion because of it. The question becomes: Is Pettitte a dark-horse HoFer like Bert Blyleven and (I believe) Mike Mussina? Or is Pettitte a league-avera ge compiler like Tommy John, Jim Kaat, and Jamie Moyer?

I think Pettitte is closer to the latter. He benefits from having played for the Yankees for most of his career, which helps with his win total. He was a very good pitcher, just not an elite one.

What is interesting is what his career numbers would look like had he not retired in 2011. Ryne Sandberg similarly "retired" for a season before coming back for two more, but his legacy was already written when he retired. Pettitte has so far been stronger during his comeback than was Sandberg, but his legacy too will not change too much even if he pitches for a couple more seasons.

Blyleven became a SABR darling and eventually got into the Hall. He also opened the path for someone like Mussina, who lacks the auspicious stats Blyleven had (strikeouts, shutouts) but who qualitativel y looks strong despite a high ERA. Mussina will still be a struggle, not the least because of the overcrowded ballot.

Pettitte looks stronger than John, Kaat, and Moyer, but not as strong as Blyleven and Mussina. The "Yankee mystique" might help Pettitte, but it's hard to see him as a Hall of Famer.
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