Missed Players

9 years 8 months ago #255 by Ziggy Koole
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I see... we also have a couple of guards set to be inducted in the near future as well: Shields, Larry Allen, and my favourite player of all-time (sarcasm), Alan Faneca. As for centers, Dermontti Dawson and Kevin Mawae will probably get in within the next 10 years. Personally I don't feel there are too many centers in the hall of fame, as there are considerably less centers in the hall than guards or tackles.So here's what I think of your candidates:Jon Kolb: I like him, and he's deserving, but teammate LC Greenwood should go in firstRichmond Webb: Meh... he's borderline. Good tackle, don't get me wrong, but was he truly great? I don't know...Erik Williams: I think he deserves it, but like Kolb there are better players who haven't been inducted.Russ Washington: Just not behind the guys hall of fame case. Obviously he was a solid tackle, or else he wouldn't have made it in the NFL, but IMHO he's not a hall of famer.You also failed to mention Joe Jacoby and Jim Tyrer, who I feel should be in the hall of fame, although Tyrer will never get in due to his... let's call them issues. Jacoby and Tyrer are on my not in the hall of fame 53-man roster, the 4 offensive tackles on my team are Jon Kolb, Tyrer, Jacoby, and... well... you know who.

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9 years 8 months ago #99 by Committee Chairman
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Ziggy,We had Ken Riley, right on the cusp of making the 100. Perhaps in a revised list, which we will have to look at soon anyway!

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9 years 8 months ago #97 by Ziggy Koole
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Oh yeah, and one more thing. I don't remember seing Ken Riley on your list. The dude is fifth on the all-time interceptions list, but he never gets any respect. I don't blame you for not including him, since nobody really knows him that well, I'm just wondering.

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9 years 8 months ago #96 by Ziggy Koole
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Yes, I do. He led the Steelers to numerous years of contending, and did win a Super Bowl. If he never coaches another game, his first year of elligibility is 2012. I don't think he'll go in then, but I think he'll get in eventually asuming he doesn't come back. Bill Parcells and Marty Schottenheimer are also elligible in 2012. I think Parcells should be a first-ballot, and Schottenheimer will get in eventually.

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9 years 8 months ago #89 by Committee Chairman
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Ziggy,I love those ten! I think anyone would be hardpressed to come up with a better list than that. The more research i do on Sabol, the more I think he should be in this year. Do you think if Bill Cowher never coaches another game, would be an HOF candidate?

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9 years 8 months ago #88 by Ziggy Koole
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So, who do you think the top 10 non-players that aren't in the hall of fame are? My list: Tom Flores, Jimmy Johnson, George Seifert, Dan Reeves (although apparently he still wants to coach), Don Coryell, Art Modell, Edward DeBartolo, William Clay Ford, Paul Tagliabue, and Ed Sabol.

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9 years 8 months ago #87 by Committee Chairman
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Ziggy, Its funny you say that as when we did this, we joked that we could easily sibstitute the numbers 50 -100 for who we had on tap from 101 to 150. Once you get past the top 40, it amazes us how little seperates the next batch.

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9 years 8 months ago #86 by Ziggy Koole
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Considering all the great players to come and go in the history of the NFL, it is extremely difficult to make a list of the top 100. There are about 25-30 that have to appear on the list (Carter, Kramer, Kennedy, etc) and I think you got all of those guys, but after that it's anybody's guess. Honestly, you could make a list of the top 500 and there'd probably be enough quality players to fill out that list. I think the people at NotInHallofFame did an excellent job with the list, I was just saying some players that I would have added.You may never have to end up putting Les Richter on the list. There is a very good chance he will get into the hall of fame in 2011, along with fellow veteran nominee Chris Hanburger.P.S. I still think Jim Marshall should be in the top 20. He had excellent numbers over a long period of time, he was an ironman, and although he didn't have one year where he was completely dominant, you could make a legitimate arguement that he ment more to those Vikings teams than Alan Page or Carl Eller, both who are in the hall of famer (and deserve to be in the hall of fame.)

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9 years 8 months ago #75 by Knuckles
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As you've said, CC, compiling such lists is not an easy task. Nobis was the name that stood out the most to me as being missing from the 100. A 2011 comparison would be Clay Matthews Jr. as to how highly regarded he was right away in his NFL career.

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9 years 8 months ago #61 by Committee Chairman
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Ziggy....Great Post!!!!We have been kicking around expanding our list to the top 250, and will likely do so in the coming year. Nobis, Banks and Smith would easily be on that list. As for Larsen, we admit we really didn;t consider him for the next group. Perhaps we should reconsider! As for Les Richter, we didn;t include him initially, and I think we made a mistake on that one. Should he not get in, you can bet you will see him on our next list.As for the others, we considered....its a long one!!!!!!Here are some that almost made our cut (and will be on an expanded list)Bobby BoydLomas BrownDarren WoodsonSteve JordanJoe KleckoEd Too Tall JonesLarry GranthamJake ScottJust to name a few...... I have a feeling by Spring you will see this expand to a list of 250!

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