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2. Mark Messier

Much like it was easy to decree that Wayne Gretzky was the greatest Edmonton Oiler of all-time, we find it quite simple to state that Mark Messier is a firm number two for this list.  This is no small praise, as when you look through the top ten, there are many Hall of Famers who was responsible for the Oilers' dynasty of the 1980s.

2005-2007 Hockey Hall of Fame Inductees are up.

Over the last few months, we here at Notinhalloffame.com have been so focused on other endeavors at the site, that we neglected to tell you about the continuing opportunity fro you to cast your opinion on existing Hockey Hall of Famers.

With that in mind, we here at Notinhhalloffame.com have expended greatly to allow you to vote on Hockey Hall of Fame inductees from 2005-2007.

The Players/Builders from that existing time frame include:


The 2005 Hockey Hall of Fame Class:

Cam Neely, the gritty former Boston Bruin and four time Second Team All Star.

Murray Costello, who had a twenty year stint as the President of the Canadian Amateur Hockey Association.

Valari Kharmalov, a Soviet star from the 1970’s.


The 2006 Hockey Hall of Fame Class:

Dick Duff, a six time Stanley Cup Champion

Harley Hotchkiss, who brought the NHL to Calgary and had a long tenure as the Chairman on the NHL Board of Governors.

Herb Brooks, the Head Coach for Team U.S.A.’s “Miracle on Ice” team in 1980.

Patrick Roy, a three time Vezina Trophy winner, three time Conn Smythe Trophy winner and four time Stanley Cup Champion.



The 2007 Hockey Hall of Fame Class:

Al MacInnis, a four time First Team NHL All Star and the Conn Smythe Trophy Winner for the Calgary Flames during their lone Stanley Cup Championship.

Jim Gregory, who was the Chairman of the Hockey Hall of Fame Selection Committee when he was selected.

Mark Messier, a two tome Hart Trophy winner, a four time First Team All Star and a six time Stanley Cup Champion.

Ron Francis, a longtime stat accumulator with two Stanley Cup Rings with the Pittsburgh Penguins and a former Frank J. Selke Award winner.

Scott Stevens, a three time Stanley Cup Champion with the New Jersey Devils and two time First Team All NHL member.


I think you know what we are looking for you to do!

When your time permits, take a look at this group and let us know if their Hall of Fame inductions are justified!



Our All-Time Top 50 Edmonton Oilers are now up

Yes, we know that this is taking a while!

As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team.  We have a new one to unveil today, that of the Edmonton Oilers. 

Debuting as the Alberta Oilers in 1972 in the World Hockey Association, they would exchange the Alberta for Edmonton after one year.  The Oilers were an original WHA team, who would be one of four franchises that would be absorbed into the NHL in 1979.  When they joined the NHL, they had a young Wayne Gretzky in tow, and after drafting players like Paul Coffey, Jari Kurri, Mark Messier and Grant Fuhr, a dynasty occurred that would win four Stanley Cups in the 1980s and one in 1990.  Since that time, they made the Finals once in 2006.  

As for all of our top 50 players in hockey we look at the following: 

1.  Advanced Statistics.

2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the NHL.

3. Playoff accomplishments.

4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.

Remember, this is ONLY based on what a player does on that particular team and not what he accomplished elsewhere and also note that we have placed an increased importance on the first two categories.

This list is updated up until the end of the 2018-19 Season.

The complete list can be found here, but as always we announce our top five in this article.  They are:

1. Wayne Gretzky

2. Mark Messier

3. Jari Kurri

4. PaulCoffey

5. GrantFuhr

We will continue our adjustments on our existing lists and will continue developing our new lists.  

Look for or All-Time Top 50 Colorado Avalanche coming next!

As always we thank you for your support.

Awards = HOF? Part Twenty-Two: The Conn Smythe Trophy

We here at Notinhalloffame.com thought it would be fun to take a look at the major awards in North American team sports and see how it translates into Hall of Fame potential.

Needless to say, different awards in different sports yield hall of fame potential.  In basketball, the team sport with the least amount of players on a roster, the dividend for greatness much higher.  In baseball, it is not as much as a great individual season does not have the same impact.

Mark Messier

Wayne Gretzky may have been the offensive star of the Edmonton Oilers dynasty, but for many it was Mark Messier who was the fan favorite of the team. He was easy to like as he still had offensive firepower that fans love and the defensive prowess that traditionalists respect. He could check, he was a leader, and was a proven winner. The best example of this is that it was Mark Messier who led the Oilers to the Stanley Cup AFTER Wayne Gretzky was traded to Los Angeles. That was in 1990, a special year for Messier as he also won his first of two Hart Trophies (the second was in 1992).
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