Normally we don’t talk about retired numbers until it become official, but we will touch on this story as some more meat on the bone has been added.
Following the moves of Kevin Durant to Brooklyn and Andre Iguodala to Memphis, the Golden State Warriors announced that sometime in the future that they would retire their numbers. Both were vital to the recent championships for the franchise so it is not unexpected, though this announcement does seem early.
When asked about this, former Warriors star, Tim Hardaway said that his friends had the following to say in an interview to SF Gate:
I'm laughing because as soon as they said Kevin Durant's number's gonna get retired, here they go, he said, 'Man that's some BS. How they gonna retire his number and he only played there for three years and you played there for six years, and you giving them all the sweat and tears and everything like that and they're not gonna retire your number.'"
But, you know they deserve it, you know they won championships, man. They won championships, they was there, not to say I shouldn't be up there, but you know I can feel what Joe Lacob is saying and he wanna bring them joy and show them gratitude for what they did for the city.”
In the interview, Hardaway wanted to make it clear that it was the opinions of his friends and not of himself.
Hardaway was a member of the famous RUN-TMC trio with Chris Mullin and Mitch Richmond. Mullin’s number has been retired, but he is also in the Basketball Hall of Fame. As of this writing, Hardaway and Richmond are not.
At present, Golden State had retired six numbers: Wilt Chamberlain (#13), Tom Meschery (#14), Alvin Attles (#16), Chris Mullin (#17), Rick Barry (#24) and Nate Thurmond (#42).
We will definitely be paying attention to this one!
We here at Notinhalloffame.com are always looking to add new sections to our website. Last month, we uploaded our top 100 active NFL players and how their Hall of Fame resumes stack up.
We are doing the exact same thing with the NBA.
As opposed to 100 like we did in Football, we are going with only 50 in Basketball.
We liked the idea that we used in Football with a modern “Modern Positional Average”, so we are doing something similar here. With advanced analytics, we decided that we don’t have to isolate based on position so they are all on one list.
Inspired by Jay Jaffe’s JAWS statistic that looks at the best seven-year stretch of a baseball player according to bWAR, we are doing the same with current basketball players. Specifically, we compiled the average PER, Win Shares and VORP for each of the past Hall of Famers based on their best seven-year period. The additional thinking behind this is that in Basketball, there is an additional focus on periods of greatness as opposed to sports like Baseball, where compiling statistics is more glorified.
To keep everything modern, the average we used is the last 14 inductees, but only the ones who were Modern Era Inductees. This excludes Direct-Elect Candidates (contributors, Early African-American Pioneers, International and Veterans). The only exception is Vlade Divac, who was chosen via the International Committee, but has a healthy NBA career to draw upon.
As of this writing, the 14 players from the last four induction classes who we are using for the composite averages are:
Ray Allen, Maurice Cheeks, Vlade Divac, Bobby Jones, Grant Hill, Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Sidney Moncrief, Steve Nash, Shaquille O’Neal, Jack Sikma and Paul Westphal.
While we are not looking at traditional statistics, we are averaging out All-Star Games and All-NBA Selections. With the latter, we are looking at this in weighted fashion. In terms of Third Team All-NBA Selections, one point will be assigned, Second Team All-NBA Selections will have two points will be granted, and First Team All-NBA Selections will have three points.
Here are the averages:
Based on their elite seven-year stretch the average PER of the last 14 Modern Era Hall of Famers is 21.5.
Based on their elite seven-year stretch, the average Win Shares of the last 14 Modern Era Hall of Famers is 65.1.
Based on their elite seven-year stretch, the average VORP of the last 14 Modern Era Hall of Famers is 27.8.
With All-Star and All-NBA Selections, we look at the entire career of the player.
The average All-Star Selections of the last 14 Modern Era Hall of Famers is 7.4.
The average All-Pro Selections (based on the pointed average of one for a Third Team, two for a Second Team and three for a First Team Selection) is 9.8.
We are also adding NBA Championships. Often, players in this team sport more than any other (except for NFL Quarterbacks) are judged by the number of rings they have. Perhaps, that shouldn't be as regarded as it is, considering the average amount of titles of our last 14 Modern Era Hall of Famers is less than 1. Specifically, it is 0.79.
Wrapping this up in a bow, the six variables we are looking at Elite Period PER, Elite Period Win Shares, Elite Period VORP, All-Star Games, Weighted All-Pro Selections, NBA Championships.
This will be a regular feature on Notinhalloffame.com, and we will be updating this at the end of the season.
You can find our new section HERE.
As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank all of you for your support!
Yes, we know that this is taking a while!
As many of you know, we here at Notinhalloffame.com are slowly generating the 50 of each major North American sports team. That being said, we have existing Top 50 lists out and we always consistently look to update them when we can and based on necessity. As such, we are very happy to present the first revision of our top 50 Oklahoma City Thunder of all-time.
As for all of our top 50 players in football we look at the following:
1. Advanced Statistics.
2. Traditional statistics and how they finished in the NBA.
3. Playoff accomplishments.
4. Their overall impact on the team and other intangibles not reflected in a stat sheet.
Please note that this is the first update since 2016, and it does not reflect the current season. Please also note that the history of the Thunder includes that of the Seattle SuperSonics.
Remember, this is ONLY based on what a player does on that particular team and not what he accomplished elsewhere and also note that we have placed an increased importance on the first two categories, which has altered the rankings considerably.
This list is updated up until the end of the 2018-19 Season.
The complete list can be found here, but as always we announce our top five in this article. They are:
2. Gary Payton
3. Kevin Durant
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Jack Sikma
We have used a different algorithm from our initial list, and this has resulted in a few changes that are reflected on the entire list, and even in the top five.
Current Houston Rocket, Russell Westbrook, takes over at #1 from #3 three years ago. The last two seasons he had with OKC, put him over Durant and Payton. Gary Payton dropped from #1 to #2 due to Westbrook’s ascension to the top. Kevin Durant, who almost made it to number, fell from #2 to #3. With the new algorithm in use, Shawn Kemp and Jack Sikma reversed their rank at #4 and #5 respectively.
There were other significant changes. We dropped the ball by not ranking Serge Ibaka. That was a major oversight, and the Congolese Center enters at #11. Steven Adams, who has been their Center for the last few seasons, debuts at #17.
As always, we thank you for your support.
As each year goes by, Kevin Durant becomes less and less media-friendly, but does it matter? It shouldn't, as his legend is officially secured. Now that his run with the Golden State Warriors is officially over, he did exactly what he set out to do in winning a championship, which he won two. The former MVP enters his first season with Brooklyn on the disabled list. Saying that we can't wait to see his third act begin once he can play again.