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RIP: Yogi Berra

It is a sad day for Baseball, the New York Yankees and the witticisms as Yogi Berra passed away at the age of 90 due to natural causes. 

The Hall of Fame Catcher and three time American League MVP was one of the best hitting Catchers of all time and holds the distinction of playing in more World Series Games than anyone else.  Berra would win ten World Series rings as a player and three as a coach and would retire as a player with 358 Home Runs and 1,430 Runs Batted In.

The popular Catcher would become known not only for his on field play but for his expressions, the top of which we ripped off from an ESPN article this morning.

10. "It's like deja vu all over again."

9. "You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to eat six."

8. "The future ain't what it used to be."

7. "We made too many wrong mistakes."

6. "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

5. "You can observe a lot just by watching."

4. "You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours."

3. "When you come to a fork in the road, take it."

2. "Baseball is 90 percent mental. The other half is physical."

1. "It ain't over 'til it's over."

While Berra’s life may be over his Yogi-isms will forever live on as will his memory.

We here at would like to offer condolences to the friends and family of Yogi Berra at this time.

A look at the Pre-Integration Baseball HOF Candidates

With all the talk about the upcoming Hall of Fame vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame, it is easy to forget at the Winter Meetings that will happen on December 6th and the 7th, that the Veteran’s Committee will be meeting to discuss other nominees for Cooperstown.

This year the committee in question is the Pre-Integration Era Committee, which reflects players and administrators prior to 1947, the year in which the color line was breached by Jackie Robinson. 

Before we get into the candidates they are discussing, it is worth noting a regular criticism that has been made is that these are players who at this point, nobody on the committee has seen live, and during a time when great African-American players were not allowed to participate.

Still, this is a committee that three years ago inducted three people (especially notable as the writer’s ballot yielded nobody) with former player, Deacon White, umpire, Hank O’Day and executive, Jacob Ruppert were chosen.

16 men comprise the Pre-Integration Era committee, which are:

Chuck Armstrong (Former President of the Seattle Mariners), Bert Blyleven (Hall of Fame player), Bobby Cox (Hall of Fame manager), Bill DeWitt (Managing Partner of the St. Louis Cardinals), Pat Gillick (Hall of Fame Executive), Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau), Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post Dispatch), Gary Hughes (Boston Red Sox Scout), Peter Morris (Historian), Phil Niekro (Hall of Fame player), Jack O’Connell (BBWAA), Claire Smith (Historian), Tal Smith (Former Executive), T. R. Sullivan (Historian), Gary Thorne (Historian) and Tim Wendell (Historian).

To get inducted, a candidate must receive 75% of the vote, thus obtain at least 12 votes.

The ten candidates are:

Doc Adams, a very early player in New York and multi-time president of the New York Knickerbockers.  Adams is credited with many of the modern rules of the game including instituting the Shortstop position, placing bases 90 feet apart and eliminating outs being recorded after one bounce.

Sam Breadon, the owner of the St. Louis Cardinals from 1920 to 1947.  The Cardinals would win six World Series Championships in that time frame.  Breadon was on the 2013 ballot but received three votes or less.

Bill Dahlen, a Shortstop who was a World Series winner in 1905 and is currently a sabremetric darling.  Dahlen was on the 2013 ballot and received 10 votes.  He is ranked #8 on

Wes Ferrell, a Pitcher who was a two time All Star.  Ferrell was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #26 on

August Herrmann, a former executive who was the President of the Cincinnati Reds from 1902 to 1927.

Marty Marion, a Shortstop who was a former MVP who won three World Series Championships.  Marion was on the 2013 ballot and received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #69 on

Frank McCormick, a First Basemen who is a former MVP and eight time All Star.  He is unranked on

Harry Stovey, a First Basemen who led the NL in Home Runs in 1891.  Stovey was ranked in the past by, however was removed upon the elimination of all 1800’s players.

Chris von der Ahe, who was the owner of the St. Louis Brown Stockings, which are now known as the St. Louis Cardinals.

Bucky Walters, a Pitcher who won the World Series in 1939 and the National League MVP in 1940.  Walters was on the 2013 ballot but received 3 votes or less.  He is ranked #65 on

Based on the 2013 vote, it is possible that Dahlen may have a decent shot at induction, but it is more conceivable that a goose egg appears instead.

What will happen with this group, and are the criticisms correct and should the Pre-Integration period cease generating discussion?

As always, eyes will be on Cooperstown this winter and the prospects of membership growth!

The Pre-Integration Committee selects...nobody

We would be lying if we thought that the Pre-Integration Committee was going to select anybody, and well, we weren’t let down.

Specifically, this committee was tasked with choosing players/administrators who had their day in the sun prior to 1947, when the color barrier was finally broken.

To gain induction, a candidate must finish with at least 12 of the 16 votes (75%) from the committee.  The highest finisher was Doc Adams with 10.  Historically speaking, Adams has been uncovered as one of the father’s of the modern game and many of his innovations are still used today. 

Former players, Bill Dahlen and Harry Stovey each received eight votes.  This is especially notable for Dahlen, as he received ten on the last Pre-Integration vote three years ago.

The rest of the candidates received three votes or less.  This includes former Cardinals owner, Sam Breadon, Pitcher, Wes Ferrell, former Cincinnati Reds President, August Hermann, Shortstop, Marty Marion, First Basemen, Frank McCormick, former St. Louis Brown Stockings owner, Chris von der Ahe and Pitcher, Bucky Walters.

When a candidate receives three or less, the exact tally is not disclosed.

An excellent commentary on this year’s group of candidates was done by our own DDT, which you can find here.  It is definitely worth your time to read.

With that over, attention is heating up on a ballot led by Ken Griffey Jr., who many feel will enter on his first attempt.

Did the Pre-Integration committee get it right?

The Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 is announced! Griffey and Piazza are in!

This is one of our favorite days of the year.

Today the Baseball Hall of Fame announced the Class of 2016 and two former baseball greats will be immortalized in Cooperstown.

As expected, Ken Griffey Jr. breezed through on his first attempt.  Griffey Jr. set a new record for voting percentage, receiving 99.3% of the vote.

Griffey’s Hall of Fame co-entrant will be former Catcher, Mike Piazza who enters on his fourth try with 83.0%.

While Griffey and Piazza are excited today, there are certainly a lot of disappointed former baseball stars that were hoping for a certain Hall of Fame call.

Longtime Houston Astro, Jeff Bagwell, continues to be snubbed.  Like Piazza, Bagwell is on his fourth year of eligibility however like many on this ballot, he received his highest vote total, with 71.6%.

RIP: Monte Irvin

It was announced yesterday that Hall of Fame Baseball player, Monte Irvin, passed away at the age of 96.

The Alabama native played in the Negro, Mexican, and Puerto Rican Leagues before he finally got an opportunity to play in the Majors in 1949, where at the age of 30, he joined the New York Giants and would help them win two National League Pennants and the World Series in 1954.

Irvin would win the National League RBI title in 1951, and finished third in MVP voting that season.  Overall, he would have a respectable Slash Line of .293/.383/.475 over a 764 Game career, which would certainly have been much higher had he not suffered a severe ankle injury in 1952 and had been in the Major in the 1940’s, when he was at his prime.

Following his playing career, he would become the first African-American to reach an executive position in MLB when he was made the Assistant Director of Public Relations in 1968.  He would later serve as a Special Assistant to Commissioner, Bowie Kuhn.

Irvin entered the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1973 by the Negro League Committee. 

We here at Notinhalloffame would like to extend our condolences to the friends and family of Monte Irvin at this time.

The Cincinnati Reds will induct Pete Rose into their Hall of Fame!

Pete Rose may never get into the Baseball Hall of Fame.  However the Cincinnati Reds, the team in which Rose spent the bulk of his career with, has decided to ignore the nearly three decade ban that was upheld by Major League Baseball Commissioner, Rob Manfred, as they will be inducting the Hit King into their franchise’s Baseball Hall of Fame.

Rose, who is a native of Cincinnati, is still a revered man in that city, and this was where he led the “Big Red Machine” to two World Series Championships in the 1970’s.  As a Cincinnati Red, Rose accumulated 3,358 of his 4,256 career Hits; a number that may never be broken.  Rose would also win six Hit Titles, three Batting Titles, the Rookie of the Year and an MVP Award in Cincinnati.

The Reds will not only be inducting Rose into their Hall of Fame, but they will also be retiring his number 14, in a ceremony that will take place in June.  The organization also announced that they plan to erect a statue in his honor outside Riverfront Stadium.

While we are aware that will be some who will be angry with this decision, we here at are thrilled with the Cincinnati Reds for this decision, and are happy for Rose and the Baseball fans of Cincinnati.

Our Baseball List has been revised!

Over the last forty-five days, both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Baseball Hall of Fame announced their latest classes.  Recently, we here at put together our latest list of the 500 plus Rock and Roll acts worthy of consideration for the vote that will take place in December of 2016.  Our baseball list is naturally next.

The 2016 vote saw Ken Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza selected for Cooperstown, both of who were in our top five.  Obviously, they will be taken out of our Baseball 100, but there will be three new eligible former baseball players who will join them.

Let’s take a look at our new Baseball Top Ten.

The 2020 Baseball Futures are up!

It is onward and upwards as always for us at!

We have uploaded another section in Baseball, where the Baseball players who are eligible for the Hall of Fame in 2020 are now up.

This will allow all of you tell us your opinions on these players whose career is already over but are not yet eligible for the Hall of Fame. 

Here are those players:

Adam Dunn, a two time All Star who blasted 462 Home Runs.

Alex Gonzalez, a member of the 2003 World Series Championship Team.

Alfonso Soriano, a three time All Star with four Silver Sluggers and over 2,000 Hits and 400 Home Runs.

Bobby Abreu, the exceptionally patient hitter with a career On Base Percentage of .395 and two All Star appearances. 

Brad Penny, a two time All Star and 2003 World Series Champion with the Florida Marlins.

Brian Roberts, a two time All Star with over 1,500 career Hits.

Bronson Arroyo, a former Gold Glove winner and World Series Champion with the Boston Red Sox in 2004.

Carlos Pena, a one time All Star who once won the Home Run Title. 

Chone Figgins, a one time All Star who was a World Series Champion with the Anaheim Angels in 2002.

Cliff Lee, a four time All Star and the American League Cy Young Winner in 2008.

Derek Jeter, the career New York Yankee who is a five time World Series Champion and fourteen time All Star.  Jeter is considered to be a lock for first ballot induction.

Eric Chavez, a six time Gold Glove recipient.

Heath Bell, a three time All Star and former Saves Champion.

J.J. Putz, a one time All Star and one time Rolaids Reliever of the Year.

Jamey Wright, a Pitcher used primarily in middle relief over his eighteen year career.

Jason Bartlett, a one time All Star Shortstop known for his defense.

Jason Giambi, a five time All Star and the 1996 American League MVP.

Joe Saunders, a one time All Star Pitcher.

Jose Valverde, a three time All Star who led his league three times in Saves.

Josh Beckett, a two time World Series Champion (Florida and Boston) who also was named the World Series MVP in 2003.

Kyle Farnsworth, a sixteen year MLB vet used mostly in middle relief.

Lyle Overbay, who led the NL in doubles in 2004.

Marco Scutaro, a one time All Star who won the World Series and the NLCS MVP with the San Francisco Giants in 2012.

Nate McLouth, a one time All Star and one tome Gold Glove winner.

Paul Konerko, a six time All Star and five time Silver Slugger who was the heart of the Chicago White Sox that won the 2005 World Series.

Rafael Furcal, a three time All Star who was a Rookie of the Year and World Series winner with the Atlanta Braves.

Raul Ibanez, a one time All Star who is a member of both the 2,000 Hit and 300 Home Run Club.

Ryan Ludwick, a one time All Star and one time Silver Slugger winner.

I think you all know what we want you to do!

Check out the new section, and cast your votes and offer us your opinions!

Vin Scully does not endorse Pete Rose for the Baseball Hall

Pete Rose apparently has another detractor for his Hall of Fame bid.

In an interview with the AARP Bulletin, the man who in our opinion (and we would like to think everyone else too) is the greatest baseball broadcaster that ever existed, Vin Scully, was asked if he would vote for Pete Rose, who has been banned from Major League Baseball for gambling on the game.  Scully was direct in his answer:

“I wouldn’t.  Should he be in?  He should be.  But by his own hand, he locked the door and kept himself outside.”

This is huge for two reasons.  First, they don’t come more respected than Scully and when he has an opinion the baseball world will listen.

The second is Scully doesn’t offer his opinions on players, past or present in a negative light often, and when he does it, is makes an impact.

We would love to tell you that this will be the last time that an opinion on Pete Rose will appear on our website, but who are we kidding?  Look for the next one in late March.

Tim Raines: Still Hopeful

Every year, we here at champion former Montreal Expos Outfielder, Tim Raines, as a bona fide Baseball Hall of Famer.

This past week, Raines was in Chicago to celebrate the 25th anniversary of U.S. Cellular Field and was the most optimistic he has ever been for the Baseball Hall of Fame despite entering his tenth and final year of eligibility. 

Raines had the following to say:

"This is probably the first year out of the nine years that I've been on the ballot that I really, really feel like I have a chance…I think about it a lot more than I ever have in the past.

If I don't (get in), it's not the end of the world…I would love for it to happen.  But coming now to this point, being my last year on the ballot and being so close, it's getting a little nerve-wracking. I think those nerves are starting to set in. I just can't wait until it's over now."

Raines is coming off a 2016 vote of 69.8 percent, which is the farthest by far that he has received.

We here at have had Raines ranked in the top twelve since our website’s inception and are hopeful that the former leadoff sensation will enter Cooperstown next year. 

Will he get in?

Tim Raines and his Montreal Expos teammates hopes so. 

So do we!

Pete Rose tries again

Pete Rose is trying another channel to get into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

In a seven page letter to Cooperstown, Rose outline that the ban that was imposed him 27 years ago by then commissioner, Bart Giamatti was never designed to ban him from the Hall of Fame.  For those unaware, the Baseball Hall of Fame acts independently of MLB.  The year before Rose was to be eligible the Hall of Fame passed regulation that those who were banned from MLB were therefore banned from the Hall of Fame.

It is definitely worth noting that current commissioner, Rob Manfred noted when he did not reinstate Rose that this decision was not reflective of the Hall of Fame.

While Rose is banned from the Hall this did not stop Fox Sports from using him on their baseball playoff coverage last nor the Cincinnati Reds from inducting him into their Hall of Fame recently.

As always, we will be watching!

The Ford C. Frick Nominees are announced

It’s that time of the season where we can put some serious thought into the Baseball Hall of Fame. 

The Ford C. Frick Award is resented annually to the announcer who exemplifies excellence in broadcasting.  There are eight men who have been named Finalists for this prestigious honor, the recipient of which will be automatically entered into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

The Finalists are:

Gary Cohen, who joined the New York Mets broadcast team in 1989 and has been doing the broadcast ever since.  He has also done work for ESPN Radio in the playoffs.

Jacques Doucet, who did the play-by-play in French for the Montreal Expos from 1972 until the team’s relocation (to Washington) in 2004.  He has since taken over the French language broadcasts for the Toronto Blue Jays.

Ken “Hawk” Harrelson, a former one time All Star who has been the main television announcer for the Chicago White Sox since 1990.  Harrelson began broadcasting in 1975 and had stints covering the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees before settling in Chicago. 

Pat Hughes, who has been the radio play-by-play announcer for the Chicago Cubs since 1996, where he was famously paired with former Cubs great, Ron Santo for twelve years.  Hughes did the radio broadcasts for the Milwaukee Brewers for twelve years prior to his Cubs gig.

Bill King, who for twenty five (1981 to 2005) years was the voice of Oakland Athletics.  He would also call games for the Oakland Raiders and the Golden State Warriors.

Mike Krukow, who was a long time Starting Pitcher who was a one time All Star.  Krukow has been broadcasting San Francisco Giants games since 1990.

Ned Martin, who broadcasted Boston Red Sox games on both radio and television from 1961 to 1992.

Dewayne Staats, who has been broadcasting the Tampa Bay Rays games since their inception in 1998.

We here at would like to congratulate this group of Finalists and we eagerly await to see which one will be chosen for Cooperstown!

One Less Vote for Curt Schilling

Well, that is one less vote for Curt Schilling.

Boston Herald columnist, Dan Shaughnessy has stated that he will not be voting for Curt Schilling following a tweet that praised violence towards journalists.  Specifically, he tweeted a picture at a Trump rally of a man wearing a t-shirt that read, “Rope. Tree. Journalist: Some Assembly Required” and captioned it “Ok, so much awesome here…”

“Count me out on Curt Schilling.  I have held my nose and voted for the Big Blowhard in recent years (11-2 in postseason, ridiculous walk/strikeout ratio), and he was up to 52.3 percent (75 percent required) last year, but I shall invoke the “character” clause this year. Schill has transitioned from a mere nuisance to an actual menace to society. His tweet supporting the lynching of journalists was the last straw for this voter. Curt later claimed he was joking. Swell.”

The Baseball Hall of Fame does state that character is a metric that should be considered, so Shaughnessy is in his right to do so. 

This is not the first time that Schilling has come under criticism for his social media posts and right wing beliefs.  It actually cost him his job as an analyst with ESPN.

The former World Series Champion has seen his totals rise to over fifty percent and he is entering his fifth year on the ballot. 

Will other Baseball Hall of Fame voters change their opinion on Schilling?  Don’t be surprised if a few more do just that.

Schilling losing more votes?

This may not be Curt Schilling’s year. 

Boston Herald columnist, Dan Shaughnessy stated that he would not be voting for Curt Schilling following a tweet in which he captioned “Ok, so much awesome here…” while taking a picture of a man wearing a t-shirt that read, “Rope. Tree. Journalist: Some Assembly Required” at a Donald Trump rally.

It would appear that this is not the only reporter with a Baseball Hall of Fame ballot that may not be voting for Curt Schilling.

Jon Heyman, who works as an insider for MLB Netowrk and for the FanRag Sports Network spoke to the SportsHub on 98.5 in Boston and had this to say:

“Two of the criteria in a very short paragraph are character and integrity, and I’m starting to feel sick to my stomach to even vote for this guy.  Some people can throw out character and integrity, and generally, I don’t put that much stock into it. I basically go on the on-field performance.

I dealt with [Schilling] and did not like him personally, but that doesn’t come into play. I usually like the guys but I’ve voted for a few people I do not like. I do not like Curt Schilling, at all.  It has nothing to do with his political views; it’s about character and integrity.

There is a line there to me and he crossed that line by espousing lynching. He did many things before that, and many of those things got him fired at ESPN. I was willing to ignore all of those things, but I can’t imagine why anyone would espouse lynching.  I don’t know what he believes. I saw him with some hateful rhetoric on TV and then he went and added this to it. If you think that’s a joke, it’s not a very good joke and it seems to line up with things he espouses.

If someone else wants to just look at his baseball career, I’d certainly understand that. To me, he belongs in the Hall of Shame.  I understand if you want to not count character and integrity. If you want to say it only applies to his character as a ball player, that’s fine. But to me, he’s crossed the line and I would not feel good voting for him.”


Schilling did go over the half way mark in votes but both Heyman and Dan Shaughnessy might represent a backlash of writers upset with Schilling’s latest comments.

Didn’t this Baseball Hall of Fame Vote get even more interesting?

Bud Selig & John Schuerholz to enter the Baseball HOF

We know for sure that the Baseball Hall of Fame will be adding at least two people to their institution next summer.

The 16 Man “Today’s Game Era” Committee has selected former Commissioner, Bud Selig and Executive, John Schuerholz to Cooperstown, the latter of which received a full 100 percent of the vote. 

To get elected, a candidate needed 75 percent (12 votes) to gain induction.

Bud Selig received all but one of the 16 votes.  A former owner of the Milwaukee Brewers, Selig is either widely praised or panned depending on your point of view.  Work stoppages and PED growth happened under his watch, but so did substantial revenue growth, interleague play and revenue sharing.  He becomes the fifth former commissioner to get elected.

Schuerholz was considered a lock and based on his record how could he not be?  He was the first General Manager to win the World Series in both leagues (Kansas City in ’85 and Atlnata in ’95) and while Atlanta only one World Series, it was a powerhouse team that won 14 consecutive divisions.

Former player and Manager, Lou Piniella received seven votes.

The other candidates received five for less and as per the rule (though we find that absurd) their exact vote count was not released. 

Those who received five votes or less are George Steinbrenner (Owner), Mark McGwire, Albert Belle, Davey Johnson (Manager), Harold Baines, Orel Hershiser and Will Clark.  They could possibly be nominated again in four years, the next time that the “Today’s Game Era” is scheduled to meet.

Of note, the 16 man committee are owners Bill DeWitt Jr. (Cardinals) and David Glass (Royals), executives Andy MacPhail (Phillies), Kevin Towers (Reds) and Paul Beeston (formerly of the Blue Jays), media members Bill Center, Steve Hirdt and Tim Kurkjian, and Hall of Famers Roberto Alomar, Bobby Cox Andre Dawson, Dennis Eckersley, Pat Gillick, Frank Thomas, Ozzie Smith and Don Sutton.

We would like to congratulate the two new entries to the Baseball Hall of Fame and are curious to see who will join Bud Selig and John Schuerholz.

Bill King to enter the Baseball Hall of Fame

We have another entrant in to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Annually, the winner of the Ford C. Frick Award gains entry into Cooperstown.  This year, it is the late Bill King, who was the voice of the Oakland Athletics for years. 

King, who had been a finalist six times, also served as the play-by-play voice for the Oakland Raiders and the Golden State Warriors.  Basically, he was the voice of the city of Oakland. 

The Athletics job was his third major role in the city, taking over the full radio broadcasting duties in 1981.  It was his voice that called the A’s World Series win in 1988 and his “Holy Toledo” catch phrase rang throughout the Bay Area. 

This is a posthumous induction as King passed away in 2005.

Another vote lost for Schilling

This isn’t going to be Curt Schilling’s year is it?

We have another Baseball Hall of Fame writer who has stated that he will not be voting for Schilling and furthermore, won’t be voting for anyone for the 2017 Hall of Fame Class.  That person is Wally Matthews, a former beat writer for the New York Yankees who had this say to say in a column regarding Schilling:

“If baseball’s Sabremetricians could come up with a way to quantify character, Curt Schilling’s would be a negative number.

But a guy’s personality is not supposed to be the criteria for voting, his performance is. However, voters are human beings and sometimes it is difficult to separate the man from the player.

That is where the question of Curt Schilling’s candidacy comes up for me this year. I have voted for Schilling in the past, based on his superior career WAR (80.7, higher than that of Tom Glavine, Don Sutton, Jim Palmer, Bob Feller, and yes, even Sandy Koufax) and his outstanding post-season numbers.

His personal views have often troubled and at times offended me — he is an unabashed collector of Nazi memorabilia — but I have kept that out of my thought process.

Until, that is, about a month ago, when he retweeted a photo of a man wearing a T-shirt advocating the lynching of journalists, with the comment, “OK, so much awesome here . . .”

Beyond the offensiveness of any reference to lynching, which is profoundly racist in itself, is the threat to the men and women in my profession. That is something I take personally and if Curt Schilling really wants to “lynch” journalists, he can start with me, in a boxing ring with 10-ounce gloves on. That will put an end to his sick little fantasy.”

Did he just challenge Schilling to a fight?

This wasn’t all that Matthews had to say, as other comments showed how he was disheartened with the baseball players in general and their attitude towards the media in general:

“I thought I had reached my breaking point a couple of years ago when, while covering a Yankees road game in a Midwest city, a pitcher who had recently been voted into the Hall of Fame — he was a borderline candidate at best but I voted for him, I must admit, under pressure from some colleagues — came upon the Yankees beat crew waiting for the elevator down to the post-game clubhouse.

This borderline Hall of Famer looked at the group of people, many of whom had voted for him, and turned to a companion. “Look at all the sheep,” he said, derisively. Then he began making ridiculous bleating noises. I couldn’t decide whether to belt him in the mouth or refer him to a psychiatrist. All I know is in that moment, I was profoundly sorry I voted for him and his slightly-better-than average stats.”

We are not sure who sounds more bitter, Matthews, or the former baseball player he is describing. 

Matthews also vented about the hypocrisy of the Today’s Game Era Committee selecting Bud Selig for the 2017 Hall:

“As if trying to determine whose numbers are real and whose were inflated by artificial (read: chemical) and therefore illegal means weren’t difficult enough, the Hall has further complicated matters this year by voting in Bud Selig, a  co-conspirator with Donald Fehr and Gene Orza in allowing the steroid era to occur in the first place.”

While his argument on the induction of Bud Selig is sound, the fact that someone is just throwing away a ballot is absurd and juvenile.  Certainly there are other baseball journalists who would love to have this opportunity.

Either way, the tally for Schilling is not looking like it could possibly be higher than last year.   

Curt Schilling Fires Back

You knew Curt Schilling couldn’t keep quiet right?

It seems like we have been discussing the potential drop off of Schilling’s votes from last year on a weekly basis as three Baseball Hall of Fame voters have openly stated that they will not be voting for him.  Curt of course was bound to respond and he had this to say to his former employer, ESPN.

He had the following to say:

“The Hall of Fame vote, to people like Dan and Wallace Matthews and Jon Heyman, is power to them.  That’s how it works when you give weak people power.  They want to ‘hold it over me’ or something like that? Please.  An arbitrary process done by some of the most vindictive and spiteful humans I’ve ever known?  One I stopped having control over nine years ago?

I sleep fine. My three World Series rings, trophies and 20-some years of amazing memories are all mine, and always will be.

I hate bullies, and I hate people who make other people feel bad on purpose. Clemens? Bonds? They ruined people’s lives to keep their legacies, which they eventually lost. I’ve never in my life done, nor will do, anything remotely close to something like that.

I know who I am, and this has been an amazing teaching opportunity for my children, and especially my three sons. They know me, so when they read about ‘racism’ and the other bulls— people spew, it affords us a ton of opportunity to talk about how the real world works.

Schilling isn’t wrong in that many baseball writers have taken a lot of moral high ground and there have been occasions where writers have given reasons not to vote for a candidate that have come off as self-righteous. 

Either way, Schilling’s vote are likely to drop and there is a war brewing between him and those who decide his Hall of Fame legacy…which whether he admits it publically or not does matter.

Gaylord Perry supports Bonds, slams Rose

It has felt that for years that existing Baseball Hall of Famers have been constantly stating that PED users have no place in Cooperstown.  As such, it took us by surprise when Hall of Fame Pitcher, Gaylord Perry said today that he thought Barry Bonds deserves to be inducted.

It took place in a conference call from Diamond Resorts, and while it was not exactly a glowing endorsement, it was considering that it came from a Hall of Famer over the age of 60:

“I think he’ll get in eventually.  If you have a player like that, pretty soon, you put him in.’’

While this is not exactly a ringing endorsement, compared to his Hall of Fame peers it really is!

Perry may have had a somewhat lackadaisical endorsement of Barry Bonds, he had an adamant stance against Pete Rose:

“Pete did the worst thing possible, worse than steroids,…he put money on games, win or lose. He’s paying the price.”

Quite the different stance regarding Rose isn’t it?

Gaylord Perry was not the only Baseball Hall of Fame inductee who was on this conference call.  John Smoltz was also on this call and he had a softer stance in regards to Bonds:

“I’m trying to figure out what is actual, and what isn’t,  To me, the one thing forgotten in this thing is the mission statement. Character is a big part of it. You have to not only have the numbers, but the character that matches it

If you have first-hand knowledge that a player used, or has publicly acknowledged it, I think it’s an easy decision. When it is circumstance and evidence, and you don’t know, and just follow the rumor mill, that’s difficult for the writer to be judge and jury.”

This is not exactly an endorsement for Bonds, but it is not a condemnation either.

As it stands now, Bonds and his “PED brethren” are on the outside looking in, but from revealed ballots it looks like he and his ilk are inching closer to the 75% needed to get in.  As some writers have put it, the fact Bud Selig has been chosen by the Today’s Game Committee, it is harder to omit the players who juiced up under his watch.

The Baseball Hall of Fame will announce their Class of 2017 on the 17th of January.

This could be the most interesting vote yet!

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