We all know that Pete Rose is banned from baseball, but the Cincinnati Reds recently placed him in their franchise Hall of Fame, as they should…he was the greatest player in team history.
Maybe you noticed, maybe you didn’t, but we had a logo change here at Notinhalloffame.com.
Since the inception of our site in 2009, our core logo has always had an image of a filmstrip with four different potential Hall of Famers from respective fields. We have alternated from Pete Rose and Barry Bonds for baseball, Don Cherry for Hockey and in the past we have had Alice Cooper, Rush, Kiss (who would all get in) and now currently Deep Purple representing Rock and Roll.
The WWE, had always been represented by an iconic picture of Randy “Macho Man” Savage holding the Intercontinental Title. Savage had fallen so far out of favor with the WWE that it almost literally took his death and a few years in top of it to get him into the Hall.
With Savage’s induction, a new WWE figure was needed…something that pops out right away.
We have elected to go with former three time Tag Team Champions, Demolition.
I know what some of you might be thinking. Ax and Smash aren’t even in your top twenty-five and there has been little push for them to get in. That may be, however this was a very popular team in their day, and damned if that look doesn’t stick out on the logo!
Besides with Bruno Sammartino, The Ultimate Warrior and Randy Savage now in, the ones who are no longer active or deceased who NEEDED to be there are now there. That makes the other spot a lot harder to fill, so why not with a tandem of a former Masked Superstar and Soviet sympathizer?
For the record, here are the other wrestling personalities that had been considered to take the spot of the “Macho Man” on the Notinhalloffame.com logo.
So there it is.
Who will be the next one from our logo who will have to be removed because he/they got into their respective Hall of Fame?
As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com would like to thank you for your support and look forward to your feedback!
 With the PED controversy, it seemed more appropriate to interject a steroids guy over a gambler. Notice we didn’t say “inject”!
Again, did we ever say this would be fast?
We here at Notinhalloffame.com have completed our next all-time top 50, this time that of the Cincinnati Reds.
As for all of our top 50 players in baseball we look at the following:
Remember, this is ONLY based on what a player does on that particular team and not what he accomplished elsewhere and also note that we have placed an increased importance on the first two categories.
Saying all of that, as.
The complete list can be found here, but as always we announce our top five in our news. They are:
This is a solid top five with four Hall of Famers and one who should be.
So which team is up next?
We go back to the ice and look at the top 50 Dallas Stars of all time.
Look for that in a couple of months.
As always, we here at Notinhalloffame.com thank you for your support.
Recently we uploaded our updated Notinhalloffame.com Rock List. We have another major update as our Baseball list has now been altered following the selection of six new members entering the elite halls of Cooperstown.
Six former players left our list, four via the vote (Chipper Jones #3, Jim Thome #6, Vladimir Guerrero #9 and Trevor Hoffman #20) and two from the Veteran’s Committee (Jack Morris #11 and Alan Trammell #12). This clears up both the top portion of our list but the Hall of Fame voter’s ballot, which should allow for others who have been waiting to enter the Hall.
While four major names left the Hall of Fame ballot the voters have some new names to consider, three of which are in our new top ten with another making our top twenty.
Our new top ten is as follows:
The #1 position is actually split in three, which is how we have done this since the inception of our Baseball list. As Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are not eligible for the Baseball Hall of Fame, we have deemed them both “1A” and 1B”.
This means that Roger Clemens who is ranked “1C” is the highest eligible player. This is where he was ranked last year.
Barry Bonds remains at #2. Two years ago, Bonds held Clemens’ spot but your votes brought the switch. Regardless, we feel that both Clemens and Bonds are Hall of Famers.
The highest debut this year is Mariano Rivera, the greatest (no, we will not say arguably) reliever of all-time. The career New York Yankee enters our list at #3, but we suspect that he will enter the Hall on his first ballot.
Mike Mussina remains at #4. While he continues to gain support his name is a low-key in comparison to other candidates.
Another Pitcher debuts in the top five in the late Roy Halladay. The former two time Cy Young winner won 203 Games to only 105 Losses and he led his league in bWAR for Pitchers four times.
Another significant new entry is Andy Pettitte. The five time World Series winner debuts in #15.
With these changes we now have 106 ranked former baseball players with our eventual intention to swell the number to 150.
You know what we want you to do!
Take a look at these new entries cast your votes and gives us your opinions as this does affect our future rankings.
Never change Pete Rose!
We don’t think that we need to tell you that Pete Rose is one of our favorite people to talk about, mostly because he was banned from baseball and what was once a surefire first ballot Hall of Famer became a pariah who the Baseball Hall of Fame removed from the ballot completely.
Rose is constantly asked about the Baseball Hall of Fame and in a recent interview with the Brian Kilmeade Show he sounded off on Johnny Bench, his former teammate and Catcher with the Cincinnati Reds. Bench has been vocal that he believes that Rose should not be allowed in the Baseball Hall of Fame due to betting on the game.
Rose had the following to say:
“It don’t bother me but you know Johnny Bench is one guy who should have tanked God that I was born because he would have never made the Hall of Fame if I wasn’t born…Because I’m the guy he knocked in a thousand times. You got guys in front of you guys right behind you and you got to be responsible for everybody else involved”.
We don’t think that Rose actually believes that as he would go on to say that he would always say that “Bench was the greatest Catcher that ever lived” so there is certainly some contradictory statements here but while he said there was not animosity between the two it is hard to see otherwise.
He would continue:
“I would think if he’s a Cincinnati fan and he cares about the city of Cincinnati that he would probably want me in the Hall of Fame.”
Like we said, never change Pete Rose!
A few weeks ago, the Baseball Hall of Fame announced their 2020 Baseball Hall of Fame Class. The result was that Derek Jeter (on his first ballot), and Larry Walker (on his tenth and final) were chosen to enter Cooperstown. The two will join former Catcher, Ted Simmons, who was elected by the Veteran’s Committee. All three of those former players were ranked in the top ten, and have been removed from the list.
For the first time since we began this list in 2010, there is no new entry in our top 15. Actually, there is no new entry in the top 50. This should assist in clearing any existing backlog.
The new top ten is:
1A. Pete Rose. Following the bombshell that was the Astros sign-stealing scandal, Rose again lobbied for reinstatement in the Majors. His reasoning was that since no Astros player was punished, that logic should transfer to his own situation. That likely won’t happen, but he did remain in the news as President Trump also said he should be in the Hall of Fame. Since he is ineligible, he has the “1A” designation.
1B. “Shoeless” Joe Jackson. Like Rose, Jackson was banned from baseball, which is now 100 years old. Jackson was banned for his (alleged) participation in the 1919 Black Sox scandal where players were paid by gamblers to throw games in the World Series to the Cincinnati Reds. Jackson was a Hall of Fame worthy player, but as such his estate has to settle for his “1B” rank.
1C. Roger Clemens. Unlike Rose and Jackson, Clemens is Hall of Fame eligible, but the PED stain has kept him out thus far. He has two more years left and a big mountain to climb, but what looked impossible a few years ago, could be attainable.
2. Barry Bonds. Ditto for Bonds, and the only reason he is behind the “Rocket”, is because he has a slightly lower vote total than anyone than Clemens. The all-time Home Run king is in the same boat as Clemens, as they both are in the low 60s in voting with two years left of eligibility.
3. Lou Whitaker. Playing his entire career with the Detroit Tigers, Lou Whitaker was only on the Hall of Fame ballot for one year, but has appeared on the Veteran’s Committee Ballot. There is still a good chance that he could enter via that route and join his double play partner, Alan Trammell, who also had to wait for a Veteran’s Committee admission to Cooperstown.
4. Bill Dahlen. “Bad” Bill Dahlen has been a Veteran’s Committee Nominee before, and could be again. The surly Shortstop was a defensive gem, a World Series Champion with the Giants in 1905, and is still in the top 50 in bWAR for Position Players.
5. Curt Schilling. Had it not been for the mouth, political views and Twitter account of Curt Schilling, he would likely already have been inducted by now. As it stands, he is close with a recent tally of 70% on his eight ballot. Schilling has been on his best behavior in the last year, and with the weakest ballot in memory, he will enter Cooperstown in 2021 if he keeps his nose clean.
6. Manny Ramirez. Unlike Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, Manny Ramirez WAS caught using PEDs and did so when the Baseball Player’s Union had an agreement with Major League Baseball. Ramirez has approached 30% in the last ballot, and statistically he belongs, but induction is unlikely as of this writing.
7. Todd Helton. Helton could follow Larry Walker into the Baseball Hall of Fame, and his Hall of Fame support approached nearly 30% on his second year on the ballot. Helton is definitely on the right trajectory.
8. Gil Hodges. This might surprise you, but one of the most debated players on our baseball list is Hodges. This is the player who has the most accumulated votes that never got inducted, and his name is synonymous with Dodgers lore.
9. Tommy John. Tommy John Surgery is actually represented in the Baseball Hall of Fame, but John himself is not. He has 288 Wins and 2,245 Strikeouts and he will definitely appear in a future Veteran’s Committee ballot.
10. Scott Rolen. Rolen jumped from 17.2% to 35.3% on his third year of eligibility, and while he was not a Colorado Rockie like Todd Helton, he is the one called the “New Larry Walker” based on belief that he will methodically work his way into Cooperstown. We agree with that assessment.
This brings a unique opportunity for those who are on the 2021 ballot as the returning nominees will not be looking to be “slotted” below anyone new.
We are in the preliminary process of expanding our list to 300.
You know what we want you to do!
Take a look, and if you haven’t done so already, cast your vote and offer your opinion!