Hall of Fame Debates http://www.notinhalloffame.com Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:32:06 +0000 Joomla! - Open Source Content Management en-gb Terrell Owens 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8198-terrell-owens-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8198-terrell-owens-2017-hof-debate Terrell Owens 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:30:05 +0000
Ty Law 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8197-ty-law-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8197-ty-law-2017-hof-debate Ty Law 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:11:37 +0000
Kevin Mawae 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8196-kevin-mawae-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8196-kevin-mawae-2017-hof-debate Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, here is one I really like in Kevin Mawae, but I wonder if I am in the minority here.  I think what works against him is the teams he played for were not high profile or often any good.  He played for Seattle for four years where they were mediocre and the Titans, who while good, is not a team who network executives wanted to put in the night game.  He did have a great run in the middle of his career with some good Jets teams, but even though we are talking about New York City, isn’t that really the home of the Giants?]]> [email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 04 Feb 2017 07:59:47 +0000 Jason Taylor 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8194-jason-taylor-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8194-jason-taylor-2017-hof-debate Jason Taylor 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, we go to a team I am sure you are familiar with Jason Taylor, the former Dancing with the Stars contestant and Miami Dolphin.  Taylor is a member of the 100 Sack Club and Defensive Player of the Year.  I think Taylor is getting in, but I think they are going to put him on the backburner for one year.  Thoughts on Taylor’s Hall of Fame candidacy and why so many NFL players go on DWTS? 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 04 Feb 2017 04:38:14 +0000
Kurt Warner 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8192-kurt-warner-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8192-kurt-warner-2017-hof-debate Kurt Warner 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, this is the third time that Kurt Warner has made the Finalists but this time he is the best (and only Quarterback) in this group.  His main target, Isaac Bruce is also here and as poetic as it is for them to both go in together, it won’t happen.  There is an unspoken hierarchy here, and Warner has it over Bruce.  My initial thought is one Ram going in and 18 camera shots at Brenda Warner during the induction ceremony.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:50:04 +0000
Paul Tagliabue 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8191-paul-tagliabue-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8191-paul-tagliabue-2017-hof-debate Paul Tagliabue 2017 HOF Debate
\Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, I have zero to zero.zero interest in debating this one. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:23:10 +0000
John Lynch 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8190-john-lynch-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8190-john-lynch-2017-hof-debate John Lynch 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, we return to that powerful Buccaneers defense with John Lynch, who doesn’t hurt his case by remaining in the public eye as a broadcaster.  I know that shouldn’t matter, but do you think that helps to put him over the hump?   I think he already has the Hall resume but when you see him weekly and his broadcasting peers constantly state that opinion, it can only accelerate his cause.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:07:51 +0000
Brian Dawkins 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8189-brian-dawkins-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8189-brian-dawkins-2017-hof-debate Brian Dawkins 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, we have a strong candidate for a first year inductee in Brian Dawkins…except for two things:
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:29:31 +0000
Don Coryell 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8188-don-coryell-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8188-don-coryell-2017-hof-debate Don Coryell 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, for me this is a simple one. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:58:17 +0000
LaDainian Tomlinson 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8186-ladainian-tomlinson-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8186-ladainian-tomlinson-2017-hof-debate LaDainian Tomlinson 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, there are three Finalists who are on their first year of eligibility, LaDaininan Tomlinson, Brian Dawkins and Jason Taylor.  Dawkins might get in this year, Taylor might get in this year, but Tomlinson WILL get in this year.  I would bet my dog on that…and I really love my dog.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:12:42 +0000
Jerry Jones 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8185-jerry-jones-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8185-jerry-jones-2017-hof-debate Jerry Jones 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Love him or hate him, there is only one Jerry Jones.  Featured prominently on Awfulplasticsurgery.com, Jones is an owner I really like, mainly because I only want two things from an owner:
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:27:51 +0000
Joe Jacoby 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8183-joe-jacoby-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8183-joe-jacoby-2017-hof-debate Joe Jacoby 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, doesn’t that great Offensive Line collectively known as the Hogs seem like it happened a lifetime ago?  I mean so long that it feels like they should be Senior Candidates? 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:46:41 +0000
Alan Faneca 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8182-alan-faneca-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8182-alan-faneca-2017-hof-debate Alan Faneca 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, in my mind, Alan Faneca should have been inducted last year. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 10:17:37 +0000
Kenny Easley 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8181-kenny-easley-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8181-kenny-easley-2017-hof-debate Kenny Easley 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, Kenny Easley is the Senior Candidate and I hate it.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 09:59:38 +0000
Terrell Davis 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8179-terrell-davis-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8179-terrell-davis-2017-hof-debate Terrell Davis 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, I know what I just said about Tony Boselli, but I feel so much different about Terrell Davis.  Yes he had a short career, but it was so explosive and with all due respect to John Elway and the rest of the Denver Broncos, they don’t win back-to-back Super Bowls without him. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 03 Feb 2017 04:51:21 +0000
Isaac Bruce 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8178-isaac-bruce-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8178-isaac-bruce-2017-hof-debate Isaac Bruce 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, we are turning our attention for the first of two times to the St. Louis Rams, specifically that “Greatest Show on Turf” team that was one of the most exciting squads to watch that I can remember.  Now, I am going to try and talk about Wide Receiver, Isaac Bruce without moaning about how the great sports city of St. Louis got screwed for a city that just got another team that they won’t care about.  Okay, I am going to try not to mention that again. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Thu, 02 Feb 2017 18:11:52 +0000
Tony Boselli 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8177-tony-boselli-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8177-tony-boselli-2017-hof-debate Tony Boselli 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, do we have our first Pro Football Hall of Famer to represent the Jacksonville Jaguars?  Tony Boselli was a hell of a player, but do we have the Terrell Davis of Offensive Linemen here?  Boselli was only in the league for seven years, had three great ones and two good ones, but is this enough?
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Thu, 02 Feb 2017 04:58:37 +0000
Morten Andersen 2017 HOF Debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8176-morten-andersen-2017-hof-debate http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/8176-morten-andersen-2017-hof-debate Morten Andersen 2017 HOF Debate
Here we are in the National Football League playoffs but for us that it means it is time to discuss the potential class of the 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame.  The Finalists have been announced, and along with regular contributor, Spheniscus, we will go back and forth with each candidate and openly debate as to which player would be a worthy Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. Committee Chairman: Spheniscus, I am going to kick this off (pun intended) with the all-time leading scorer, which in any other sport would mean automatic entry.  In Pro Football, that doesn’t mean it at all, and we have Morten Andersen, entering his fourth year of eligibility. 
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Wed, 01 Feb 2017 13:10:10 +0000
A look at Terrell Owens' HOF Snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7136-a-look-at-terrell-owens-hof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7136-a-look-at-terrell-owens-hof-snub Terrell Owens
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:04:47 +0000
A look at Kevin Greene's HOF Induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7050-a-look-at-kevin-greene-s-hof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7050-a-look-at-kevin-greene-s-hof-induction A look at Kevin Greene's HOF Induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:39:26 +0000
A look at Alan Faneca's HOF Snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7048-a-look-at-alan-faneca-s-hof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7048-a-look-at-alan-faneca-s-hof-snub A look at Alan Faneca's HOF Snub
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:44:34 +0000
A look at Don Coryell's PFHOF snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7006-a-look-at-don-coryell-s-pfhof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7006-a-look-at-don-coryell-s-pfhof-snub A look at Don Coryell's PFHOF snub
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Wed, 02 Mar 2016 22:49:17 +0000
A look at Eddie DeBartolo Jr.s' PFHOF induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7005-a-look-at-eddie-debartolo-jr-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7005-a-look-at-eddie-debartolo-jr-s-pfhof-induction A look at Eddie DeBartolo Jr.s' PFHOF induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way! Saying that, we felt it was worth our time to take a look at the 2016 Nominees and debate whether they should have gotten in (or not) and look to the future of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:57:20 +0000
A look at Tony Dungy's PFHOF induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7004-a-look-at-tony-dungy-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/7004-a-look-at-tony-dungy-s-pfhof-induction A look at Tony Dungy's PFHOF induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way! Saying that, we felt it was worth our time to take a look at the 2016 Nominees and debate whether they should have gotten in (or not) and look to the future of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Wed, 02 Mar 2016 18:21:14 +0000
A look at Ken Stabler's PFHOF induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6987-a-look-at-ken-stabler-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6987-a-look-at-ken-stabler-s-pfhof-induction A look at Ken Stabler's PFHOF induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Tue, 01 Mar 2016 22:54:10 +0000
A look at Dick Stanfel's PFHOF induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6986-a-look-at-dick-stanfel-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6986-a-look-at-dick-stanfel-s-pfhof-induction A look at Dick Stanfel's PFHOF induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:30:45 +0000
A look at Orlando Pace's PFHOF Induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6985-a-look-at-orlando-pace-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6985-a-look-at-orlando-pace-s-pfhof-induction A look at Orlando Pace's PFHOF Induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Tue, 01 Mar 2016 16:27:56 +0000
A look at Steve Atwater's PFHOF snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6984-a-look-at-steve-atwater-s-pfhof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6984-a-look-at-steve-atwater-s-pfhof-snub A look at Steve Atwater's PFHOF snub
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way! Saying that, we felt it was worth our time to take a look at the 2016 Nominees and debate whether they should have gotten in (or not) and look to the future of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Tue, 01 Mar 2016 09:41:25 +0000
A look at Morten Andersen's PFHOF Snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6982-a-look-at-morten-andersen-s-pfhof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6982-a-look-at-morten-andersen-s-pfhof-snub A look at Morten Andersen's PFHOF Snub
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way! Saying that, we felt it was worth our time to take a look at the 2016 Nominees and debate whether they should have gotten in (or not) and look to the future of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:07:55 +0000
A look at Joe Jaocby's PFHOF snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6981-a-look-at-joe-jaocby-s-pfhof-snub http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6981-a-look-at-joe-jaocby-s-pfhof-snub A look at Joe Jaocby's PFHOF snub
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way! Saying that, we felt it was worth our time to take a look at the 2016 Nominees and debate whether they should have gotten in (or not) and look to the future of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:41:48 +0000
A look at Marvin Harrison's PFHOF Induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6954-a-look-at-marvin-harrison-s-pfhof-induction http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6954-a-look-at-marvin-harrison-s-pfhof-induction A look at Marvin Harrison's PFHOF Induction
Last month, regular contributor, Spheniscus and I debated the Hall of Fame merits of those who were on the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Now that the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2016 has announced their class has done the same.  We were hopeful to do this prior to the announcement of the actual inductees, but life, as it often does simply got in the way!
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:35:57 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Edgar Martinez http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6517-2016-hof-debate-edgar-martinez http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6517-2016-hof-debate-edgar-martinez 2016 HOF Debate: Edgar Martinez
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 03 Jan 2016 18:06:34 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Tim Raines http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6516-2016-hof-debate-tim-raines http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6516-2016-hof-debate-tim-raines 2016 HOF Debate: Tim Raines
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:26:51 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Mark McGwire http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6515-2016-hof-debate-mark-mcgwire http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6515-2016-hof-debate-mark-mcgwire 2016 HOF Debate: Mark McGwire
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 03 Jan 2016 08:53:48 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Curt Schilling http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6514-2016-hof-debate-curt-schilling http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6514-2016-hof-debate-curt-schilling 2016 HOF Debate: Curt Schilling
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sun, 03 Jan 2016 03:17:23 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Alan Trammell http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6512-2016-hof-debate-alan-trammell http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6512-2016-hof-debate-alan-trammell 2016 HOF Debate: Alan Trammell
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:46:12 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Sammy Sosa http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6511-2016-hof-debate-sammy-sosa http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6511-2016-hof-debate-sammy-sosa 2016 HOF Debate: Sammy Sosa
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:21:32 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Gary Sheffield http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6510-2016-hof-debate-gary-sheffield http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6510-2016-hof-debate-gary-sheffield 2016 HOF Debate: Gary Sheffield
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:10:22 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Mike Mussina http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6509-2016-hof-debate-mike-mussina http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6509-2016-hof-debate-mike-mussina 2016 HOF Debate: Mike Mussina
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 13:02:08 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Larry Walker http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6508-2016-hof-debate-larry-walker http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6508-2016-hof-debate-larry-walker 2016 HOF Debate: Larry Walker
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 23:21:32 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Fred McGriff http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6507-2016-hof-debate-fred-mcgriff http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6507-2016-hof-debate-fred-mcgriff 2016 HOF Debate: Fred McGriff
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: Sometimes what I think we forget that the last name of Hall of Fame is “Fame”.  That is what I think of when the name Fred McGriff comes up.  I know he almost hit 500 Home Runs and did it clean, from what we know.  I know that he is a .500 Slugger and had it not been for the era he played in might have had more than five All Star appearances.  But this guy move the needle? What I mean specifically, is just how many people said the day of a Fred McGriff game, hey we have to go see the “Crime Dog”?  I lived in Toronto where he broke through, and I never said that, and neither did my friends.  Hell trading him away brought us Roberto Alomar and Joe Carter and a World Series a year later. Did they in Atlanta, where he helped them win a World Series?  Or in San Diego where he was before?  To the best of my knowledge, this is the only commercial he did: https://youtu.be/2BEEV8Nn3vU Does he look like a star?  Does he feel like a star?  I know that shouldn’t matter, but at what point do we decide that actual fame matters in a Baseball Hall?  Spheniscus: But that is the baseball training video that gets results. I have heard that it is actually also the most aired television commercial of all time. But somehow Google has no idea whether that is true. And if you are in a commercial that has aired more times than Google can even figure out, do you really need to make another commercial? If McGriff had gotten seven more…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:55:10 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Jeff Kent http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6506-2016-hof-debate-jeff-kent http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6506-2016-hof-debate-jeff-kent 2016 HOF Debate: Jeff Kent
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: I like Jeff Kent.  I really do.  I remember hating it when the Jays traded him, thinking that he might be something special, but considering the result (We got David Cone and a World Series that year) I can’t complain too much.  Still, when Kent would later light it up for San Francisco, including what would be an MVP season in 2000, I always thought of what he would still look like in a Jays uniform and how well he would fit in…and perhaps not fight with anyone in the dugout. Kent is entering his third year on the ballot, where he dipped a bit last year to finish at 14%.  I think he will see an increase as he was probably on the list of a few writers at the 11-14 spot, and with only Griffey (maybe Hoffman) replacing Biggio, Johnson, Martinez and Smoltz, the still thick log jam has lost a bit of lumber.  Still, if Kent can at the very least raise his total to 25%, with the reduced ballot tenure, I don’t think he has a shot to make it.  Can he get an 11% increase? Spheniscus: 11% seems like a lot. If only because there are plenty of people who aren’t voting for 10 names every year. I remember thinking as his career wound down… damn, Kent is a borderline Hall of Famer. And the Hall of Fame predictors seem to hold that to be true. On Hall of Fame Monitor where a 100 score is a likely Hall of Famer, he is a 122. On Hall of Fame Standards where 50 is a likely Hall of Famer, he is a…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:31:13 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Jason Kendall http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6505-2016-hof-debate-jason-kendall http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6505-2016-hof-debate-jason-kendall 2016 HOF Debate: Jason Kendall
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: I have always had a soft spot for spray hitters.  Pete Rose was my first favorite player, and he was replaced with Tony Gwynn, who is still to this day my all-time favorite.  Next to my Guy LaFleur rookie card, my rookie Gwynn card holds a special place in my collection. Maybe that is why I really liked Jason Kendall, especially when he was with the Pittsburgh Pirates.  With his .306 Batting Average and .387 On Base Percentage (specifically in Pittsburgh), it combined my original respect for Batting Average with the new vogue stat of OBP.   It also didn’t hurt that he was a Catcher, which I now regard as the second most important position in Baseball (behind Pitcher of course). Kendall was good (maybe Hall of Very Good caliber) but I know he won’t receive much support.  Damn though, if I had a ballot it would be hard for me not to throw him a bone and cast a vote just out of respect. Spheniscus: Well, here we have our first major disagreement. I think catcher is actually THE most important position in baseball. The Red Sox were pretty terrible this season. But they were doomed as of April 2nd, 2015 when defensive wizard Christian Vazquez underwent Tommy John surgery. Replacing him with Blake Swihart, a much better offensive player but a pretty mediocre defensive catcher, had a huge effect on pitchers who collectively had their worst years of their careers all at once. Also we had the corpse formally known as Hanley Ramirez on our team. That also did not help. Anyway, back to the task at hand. Jason Kendall. Kendall has a shot.…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:05:04 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Ken Griffey Jr. http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6504-2016-hof-debate-ken-griffey-jr http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6504-2016-hof-debate-ken-griffey-jr 2016 HOF Debate: Ken Griffey Jr.
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: This should be a no-brainer, with stress on the word “should”.  I have yet to read a publication, a blog, or a smoke signal that says that Ken Griffey Jr. is not a Hall of Famer.   Yet, there is going to be a handful of voters who won’t check his name off and we know why don’t we? It will be a few of those self-righteous pricks who will say “well, I don’t know who used PEDs or not from that era” and point to the enlarged head that he had when he played for Mr. Burns softball team as evidence that he used HGH.  It was Brain and Nerve tonic, goddamn it, and it was not on the banned substance list! Bad Springfield jokes aside, Griffey is this year’s lock, and should be.  My only question is what the second digit is on the vote, because the first one is a nine! Spheniscus: That’s the thing though, there is no way to know who did and didn’t use at that time. Mike Piazza by practically any measure is the greatest hitting catcher of all time. He should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. He’s now on his 4th time through? Why? Because he was a big guy and played in the steroid era and is therefore part of the whisper campaign. Why don’t we think Griffey used? Because he was a phenom? Well, so was his teammate Alex Rodriguez, who was a user. Because he was skinny? Have you seen Ryan Franklin? He’d need to wear a dive belt to hit 150 pounds. He was a user. Because he’s a nice guy? Mike…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Sat, 02 Jan 2016 02:20:40 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Barry Bonds http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6503-2016-hof-debate-barry-bonds http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6503-2016-hof-debate-barry-bonds 2016 HOF Debate: Barry Bonds
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 21:09:27 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Roger Clemens http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6502-2016-hof-debate-roger-clemens http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6502-2016-hof-debate-roger-clemens 2016 HOF Debate: Roger Clemens
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot.
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 18:28:45 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Troy Glaus http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6501-2016-hof-debate-troy-glaus http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6501-2016-hof-debate-troy-glaus 2016 HOF Debate: Troy Glaus
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: I remembered what you said about Garret Anderson, and I have a similar memory of Troy Glaus, whether he was playing for the Blue Jays or not.  He is just one of those players, who whenever I saw him play live or on television always seemed to be on.  He hit 320 Home Runs over his career and it feels like I have seen half of them.   He is like my retro Anti-R.A. Dickey.  Every time I am in a position where I can watch the Jays play, it is usually the knuckleballer and usually when he shits the bed. But I digress (again). That might be how I remember Glaus, and I am sure there are a lot of people in Southern California who think of Glaus and his 2002 World Series MVP (is that a lesser version of how I view Joe Carter?) but I wonder how many people only remembering Glaus for his strikeouts.  He did that…a lot.  He is one of the few who has more whiffs than hits and is there my counterpart who every time he flipped through the channels saw him swing and miss at strike three? Here is my early prediction.  Glaus is not just a one and done.  He will receive exactly one vote on the ballot.  There is someone on that Angels beat that will give him that for the World Series he helped them win.  Spheniscus: So Glaus is going to be the next Jim Deshaies, huh? We should probably register www.puttginthehall.com then. To be fair, he was a significantly better player than Deshaies and probably deserves more than one vote. But on a ballot…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 15:58:11 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Nomar Garicaparra http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6500-2016-hof-debate-nomar-garicaparra http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6500-2016-hof-debate-nomar-garicaparra 2016 HOF Debate: Nomar Garicaparra
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: Nomah!  Last year I incorrectly predicted Nomar Garciaparra as a one and done candidate, though I wasn’t really off by much.  The shortstop squeaked by with 5.5% of the vote and when that happened I was trying to figure out why as his accumulative metrics don’t put him there.  I forgot one thing.  Just how much of a rock star Mr. Mia Hamm was. This was the guy whose jersey Jimmy Fallon wore in those Saturday Night Live skits.  This was the guy who women swooned for and did so without pissing off their men.  This is the guy who lost the “r” at the end of his last name. (Side Note): As much as I am a fan of his late night show, I will go down on record for saying that Fallon was the worst SNL performer ever.  Thank you, Peter Griffin for decking him for his constant mugging for the camera. Spheniscus, you are a member of the Fenway Faithful!  Was Nomarmania running wild or was this just a perception of someone from the outside looking in? Spheniscus: As a member of the Red Sox Nation I have to say I had a problem with Fallon for a very long time based on his quotes in promoting “Fever Pitch” in which he said he was a Mets, Yankees and Red Sox fan. Such a person cannot exist. Not even the biggest front-running poser fan could make a coherent argument that makes that fandom make sense. But back to Nomahhhh. I love Nomar. Everyone I know loves Nomar. Without exaggerating, I have five friends who have named pets Nomar (three dogs, one cat, and…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 15:04:59 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Jim Edmonds http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6499-2016-hof-debate-jim-edmonds http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6499-2016-hof-debate-jim-edmonds 2016 HOF Debate: Jim Edmonds
Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: Spheniscus, I have to tell you that this is the one I am most looking forward to talking about, but it is not because I am going into this with any strong opinion.  Actually, it is the exact opposite, as here is a guy that I really want to explore his career and haven’t really done so before.  I give you Jim Edmonds, a four time All Star a World Series Champion with the St. Louis Cardinals but somebody that I have always regarded as an above average player, but not once really thought of as Cooperstown material, but am I wrong? I know there are a lot of people who groan about sabremetrics but like it or not, this is going to be the litmus test that a lot of decision makers for the Hall will go by and with Edmonds, his case gets stronger.  With a bWAR of 60.3, there are still ten on the ballot that are higher, but this remains a stacked lot so that really shouldn’t be held against him. Here is what should, that 60.3, is lower by than the average HOF at that position (70.4) as his JAWS (51.4 to the 57.2 average) is also lower.  If you argue with traditional numbers, he doesn’t hit any real “magic numbers”.  He is shy of 400 Home Runs, did not make 2,000 Hits, though I can argue that his career Slugging Percentage, which is over .500, should be one of those magic numbers and let’s say it is traditional.  I remember that stat on the back of my old baseball cards! What I think will happen is that Edmonds will fall…
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[email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 08:40:49 +0000
2016 HOF Debate: Billy Wagner http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6490-2016-hof-debate-billy-wagner http://www.notinhalloffame.com/blogs/hall-of-fame-debates/6490-2016-hof-debate-billy-wagner Last year, we did our first ever debate on Notinhalloffame.com where we tackled the Hall of Fame merit of twenty-four men who are on the Hall of Fame ballot, in what was in our opinion the most loaded ballot in our lifetime. Since it was so much fun last time, we thought we would do it again! One thing that has not changed is the number.  We will again debate twenty-four men who are on the ballot. What has changed are the ones debating.  Last year I had the pleasure of having DDT, the curator of DDT’s Pop Flies blog and D.K. of the Phillies Archivist blog.  This year, Spheniscus, who has participated in past Rock and Roll discussions, will be joining me. Chairman: Like me you probably noticed that he isn’t getting a lot of press for debuting on the ballot.  It makes sense I suppose, as entering with Trevor Hoffman puts him in the shadow, but is this is a shadow he should really be in? While he is well behind in Saves (601 to 422), there are a lot of stats where Wagner comes out ahead.  He has superior ERA (2.31 to 2.87), WHIP (0.998 to 1.058), SO/W (3.99 to 3.69) numbers and they have exactly the same JAWS of 24.0. What people don’t mention about Wagner (maybe because they don’t mention him at all) is just how much he stunk in the playoffs.  In 8 playoff series, Wagner pitched 11.2 Innings with a 10.03 ERA and a 1.971 WHIP.  Hoffman hasn’t been a playoff stud either, but this is so atrocious to me that it counters so much of what he did in the regular season in my eyes.  Honestly, I think Wagner is going to struggle just to get 2.5 percent of the vote, and I don’t think that is a wrong tally for him at all. Spheniscus: Wagner was a better player than Hoffman. There, I said it. I also proved it in Hoffman’s section. He is a better player than Lee Smith. Also proved in Hoffman’s section. He also has the misfortune of being a bit of a jerk who couldn’t get it done in the postseason in the biggest stage of all, New York, and of never having held the saves record. If Wagner had played in Kansas City, who was so down for most of his career, we would think of…]]> [email protected] (Committee Chairman) Hall of Fame Debates Fri, 01 Jan 2016 02:49:56 +0000